Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] ORP in less than 200 words

["Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Jothan - Volker was able to submit the proposal "sideways":

http://forum.icann.org/lists/4gtld-guide/msg00048.html

which we referenced as well:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/4gtld-guide/msg00080.html


On 21 Jul 2010, at 23:18, Jothan Frakes wrote:

> 
> I didn't agree with all of it but there was a lot that made sense in
> the 'open' proposal.
> 
> Is there a way that what Volker sent could be included if it were
> compressed into the one or paragraph format with 150 - 200 word limit
> that other proposals were under?
> 
> Even though it was not widely supported/objectioned, I think it is
> worthwhile that it be included because it spanned a lot of European
> registrars/stakeholders.
> 
> FWIW I vote to allow it if formatted correctly.
> 
> -Jothan
> 
> Jothan Frakes
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> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Volker Greimann
> <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mikey,
>> 
>> I do not think your argument regarding subjecting the proposal to scrutiny
>> cuts water. This is not a new proposal. Sure, we may have not polled on it,
>> but it was discussed broadly. Most of us agreed that the poll was not
>> perfect and only allowed imperfect statements of position. Using the poll as
>> a means to exclude proposals is not the intended use of the poll in my view.
>> Limiting our initial report just on the polled proposals will not reflect
>> the number of options still being discussed or the current state of
>> discussion in the WG.
>> 
>>  Best regards,
>> 
>> Volker
>> 
>>> i think this goes in the same category as Amadeu's note earlier in the day
>>> -- i'm not sure what we're going to do with this, but i don't think it's
>>> fair to the WG to put it in Section 6.  we haven't subjected this proposal
>>> to the same level of scrutiny, and we haven't polled on it.
>>> 
>>> again, sorry to be the bearer of bad news,
>>> 
>>> mikey
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Volker Greimann - Key-Systems GmbH wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Open Proposal:
>>>> 
>>>> Basic premise:
>>>> - full cross-ownership and vertical integration of registries with
>>>>  registrars (ccTLD model)
>>>> - equal registrar access (Recommendation 19)
>>>> - registrars can provide registry services as technical provider, under
>>>>  seperate ICANN agreement, if necessary
>>>> 
>>>> Fighting abuse and non-compliance (gaming) by:
>>>>   -maintaining the requirement of all new TLDs for equal registrar access
>>>>         -mandatory
>>>>         -registry may act as registrar in own TLD
>>>>         -no discrimination between registrars
>>>>         -equal connections, chances for new regs
>>>>         -first-come, first-serve on all requests
>>>>         -adequate support levels
>>>>   -establishment of a strong yet flexible compliance framework
>>>>         -clear rules of conduct
>>>>         -reactive AND pro-active approach to abuse
>>>>         -information firewalls or obligation to make generally
>>>>          available information prone to abuse
>>>>         -beefed-up (and well funded) ICANN compliance and enforcement
>>>> teams
>>>>               -random compliance checks
>>>>               -compliance monitored by ICANN
>>>>               -compliance also monitored by competitors (registrars,
>>>>                registries)
>>>>   -enforcement of an effective and strict penalty system based on
>>>>    contractual agreements
>>>>         -financial penalties
>>>>         -restrictions or limits upon operation
>>>>         -suspension of certain functions
>>>>         -termination of accreditation/delegation agreement
>>>> 
>>>> Possible exceptions:
>>>> -true SRSU: equal registrar access requirement waived (for example
>>>>  single-user dotBrands)
>>>> -other exceptions not required as the proposal allows for varied business
>>>> models
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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