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RE: [soac-mapo] Revised draft Charter Terms of Reference for your review

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  • Subject: RE: [soac-mapo] Revised draft Charter Terms of Reference for your review
  • From: "Mary Wong" <MWong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:31:51 -0400

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<DIV>Sorry to chime in late - I support Stephane's suggestion of removing the 
word "preliminary" and also Avri's proposal to add language indicating possible 
actions thereafter.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
<DIV>Mary</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#800080>Mary W S Wong</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>Professor of Law &amp; Chair, Graduate IP Programs</DIV>
<DIV>Franklin Pierce Law Center</DIV>
<DIV>Two White Street</DIV>
<DIV>Concord, NH 03301</DIV>
<DIV>USA</DIV>
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<DIV>Phone: 1-603-513-5143</DIV>
<DIV>Webpage: <A 
href="http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php";>http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php</A></DIV>
<DIV>Selected writings&nbsp;available on the Social Science Research Network 
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<TD><STRONG>From: </STRONG></TD>
<TD>"Gomes, Chuck" &lt;cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</TD></TR>
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<TD><STRONG>To:</STRONG></TD>
<TD>"Caroline Greer" &lt;cgreer@xxxxxxxxx&gt;, 
&lt;soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</TD></TR>
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<TD><STRONG>Date: </STRONG></TD>
<TD>8/25/2010 10:53 PM</TD></TR>
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<TD>RE: [soac-mapo] Revised draft Charter Terms of Reference for your 
review</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>This issue appears to be the only one at 
the moment for which there are strong different points of view.&nbsp; In my 
view of the list discussion, there seems to be quite a bit of support for 
removing the word 'preliminary'.&nbsp; Avri suggested a slightly different 
approach than Stephane but I don't think anyone else has commented in support 
of that.&nbsp; If anyone is supportive of Avri's approach or some new 
compromise, please speak up.&nbsp; This could be the last issue we need to 
resolve in the draft ToR.<BR><BR>Is anyone aware of any other ToR issues to 
resolve?<BR><BR>Considering the short time frame, it would be really helpful if 
we could move on from our ToR discussion to actually fulfilling the tasks of 
the ToR.&nbsp; I would like to propose that we start working on the ToR tasks 
in our call on Monday.&nbsp; Does anyone object to 
that?<BR><BR>Chuck<BR><BR><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
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normal">&gt; -----Original Message-----</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
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FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal">&gt; From: owner-soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx] 
On</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; Behalf Of Caroline 
Greer</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 
2010 11:18 AM</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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To: soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
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FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
Subject: [soac-mapo] Revised draft Charter Terms of Reference for 
your</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; review</SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; </SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; </SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; I believe we ought to 
remove the word 'preliminary'. We need to put a</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; push on this and try to wrap up for the Board 
retreat. I agree with</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
Stéphane that one tends to fill the space one has and we are already 
on</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; a downward track if we 
accept that the 13th is not really a drop dead</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; date of any sort. It's a challenging timeline but so 
be it - this issue</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
has unfortunately landed very late in the day. If we for whatever</SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; reason do not come up with 
something conclusive within that timeframe,</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; in my opinion we need some guidance from the Board 
(via staff) as to</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
what time is available to us and how they view this whole issue.</SPAN><SPAN 
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style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; </SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; Assuming that we are close 
to concluding the ToR for this WG and with</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; the target date of 13th September in mind for a 
report, I would like to</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
try and move the discussion on a little to our work plans for the</SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; remaining two weeks that we 
have (BTW does that leave us with just two</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; calls to go or should we be thinking about increasing 
that to two calls</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
a week?). Perhaps this was discussed on Monday's call, which I</SPAN><SPAN 
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#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; unfortunately had to miss, 
but I did not read anything about it in the</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; chat email that Liz circulated.</SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; </SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; How do we plan to tackle 
the terminology / procedure review - will this</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; just be a discussion on our understanding / 
interpretation or do we</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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have a more definite plan of attack? With such little time available 
to</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; us, we need to keep this 
tight.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
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Message-----</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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From: owner-soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx] 
On</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
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Doria</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
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style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; Subject: Re: [soac-mapo] 
Revised draft Charter Terms of Reference for</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
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FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; your review</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
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normal">&gt; </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
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style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; Hi,</SPAN><SPAN 
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style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; In which case, and if 
others agree with this position, we should</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
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10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
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FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; declare in the ToR that it is planned to end with the 
Sept 13 report.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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My issue was that the question was left dangling.&nbsp; So it was not 
a</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; question of it running 
over, but rather a question of not stating what</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; the intention was for post Sept 13. Though, it seemed 
to me, the</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
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original intent of the ToR was that it not end on Sept 13 - hence 
the</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; call for a preliminary 
report.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; There are good reasons to 
say Sept 13 and it is over.&nbsp; And I think</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; there are good reasons to say Sept 13 is preliminary 
(whether we call</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
it that or not) and that we expect to continue. And I think there is 
a</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; good reason to say that 
after Sept 13, the group will review&nbsp; and</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; decide what comes next.&nbsp; I think we should say 
something. My</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
recommendation was a compromise between the original intent 
expressed</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
in the word preliminary and what seem to be your implicit 
suggestion</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
that the group terminate with the Sept 13 report.</SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; </SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; What I really object to is 
the indefinite way in which the ToR ends</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; without a sentence of some sort.&nbsp; From my 
experience in ICANN WGs and</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal">&gt; WTs and work gatherings of all sorts, when a ToR or a charter 
leaves</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
people uncertain as to what comes next, they tend to enter an</SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; existential&nbsp; 
wilderness and spend a lot of time figuring out whether</SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; they even have a basis to 
continue talking.&nbsp; My recommendation was</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; meant to try and forestall that 
possibility.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; So I believe that either 
the word 'preliminary' should stay in as was</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 
normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; the original intent, or that some sentence be 
included, my suggestion</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
or some other formulation, indicating what happens next if the 
report</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
is not just 'preliminary.'</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; 
FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: 
normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal">&gt; </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: 
normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; 
FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; 
a.</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: 
normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal"><BR></SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
#000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">&gt; </SPAN><SPAN 
style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-VARIANT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; COLOR: 
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