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Re: Process forward [RE: [gnso-idng] restarting discussions on IDN gTLD]

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  • Subject: Re: Process forward [RE: [gnso-idng] restarting discussions on IDN gTLD]
  • From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:11:01 +0100

For what it's worth, I'm in full agreement with Mike's previous statements.

Stéphane

Le 24 nov. 2009 à 19:47, Mike Rodenbaugh a écrit :

> 
> Thanks Eric.  I do not want to get into defining 'single-registrant TLD' or
> estimating market demand. I am just pointing out that, if there is some
> consensus that various tracks might be desirable, there is certain to be a
> huge debate about prioritization.  I recall this was recognized long ago,
> when I first got formally involved in the new TLD PDP (a 'Task Force'
> meeting in MDR), and ultimately was embodied in the GNSO's policy
> recommendations which did not include any sort of silos or other
> prioritization scheme.  
> 
> The later Council resolutions were dealing with differing tracks between
> gTLDs and ccTLDs, not differing tracks within gTLDs.  The Council was
> addressing a situation it could not control, with ccTLDs, rather than any
> situation purportedly within GNSO's policy ambit.
> 
> Mike Rodenbaugh
> RODENBAUGH LAW
> 548 Market Street
> San Francisco, CA  94104
> (415) 738-8087
> http://rodenbaugh.com  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Brunner-Williams [mailto:ebw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:52 AM
> To: icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: gnso-idng@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Process forward [RE: [gnso-idng] restarting discussions on IDN
> gTLD]
> 
> Mike Rodenbaugh wrote:
>> Speaking personally, ... So-called 'single
>> registrant' TLDs have the least likelihood of such harms, so if anything
>> they should be allowed first.  Next in line would be community-based TLDs
>> (ASCII or IDN), as they have proven to resist those sorts of harms to
> date.
> 
> 
> While I'm glad to see that the pre-delegation approach of .museum and 
> ..coop, and for the first two years, of .cat, have achieved some 
> recognition for their design purposes -- persistent prevention of 
> harms, I wonder if you could speculate on the number of businesses 
> likely to put in applications for single-registrant TLDs, assuming 
> these businesses know that their applications have first priority, and 
> that ICANN has a finite capacity, and the general rule is "first come, 
> first served"? I have one single-registrant RFP in my hands today, and 
> we don't exactly seek them out, so I've no idea.
> 
> Next, with that number assumed, if there is a limitation on the number 
> of changes in the root zone in any period of time, say the 
> hypothetical ICANN-application-window-year, and that limitation is 
> 100, as Thomas Narten conjectured, how many years after 
> single-registrant applications would community-based applications wait?
> 
> This is an N/100 = Y question. You know N, I want to know Y. Pun 
> accidental.
> 
> Next, would it be fair to assume that some more single-registrant 
> applications would be submitted in the second hypothetical 
> ICANN-application-window-year, and if there were more 
> single-registrant applications for the first window than the number 
> Thomas conjectured, leaving some first year single-registrant 
> applications not yet delegated in the second year, that the same 
> result might also occur, with some second, or even first year 
> single-registrant applications not delgated at the end of the second year?
> 
> In what year would the first community-based application be accepted, 
> in the plan you've sketched out?
> 
> 
>> ...   The Council
>> agreed a long time ago that various gTLD 'tracks' were not workable, so I
> do
>> not see how they are any more workable now, at this late date in the
> policy
>> process.
> 
> 
> Could you suggest how the Council's policy statement, courtesy Chuck, 
> here:
> 
> * IDN-labeled TLDs (whether considered gTLDs or TLDs associated with 
> countries territories) should be introduced as soon as practicable 
> after technical requirements and tests are successfully completed.
> * The introduction of IDN-labeled gTLDs or ccTLDs should not be 
> delayed because of lack of readiness of one category, but if they are 
> not introduced at the same time, steps should be taken so that neither 
> category is advantaged or disadvantaged, and procedures should be 
> developed to avoid possible conflicts.
> 
> In particular the "... but if ... steps should be ..." language of the 
> 2nd point, with your view? Does the "long time ago" determination that 
> various tracks were not workable mean the 31 July 2008 determination 
> is without meaning? If not, what do you think it means?
> 
> Thanks for your time too Mike,
> Eric
> 
> 

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