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Re: [gnso-idng] rethinking IDN gTLDs
- To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-idng] rethinking IDN gTLDs
- From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:37:22 -0500
Gomes, Chuck wrote:
Eric,
As I know you understand, even if there are no direct costs to
applicants for the failure you cite, the bottom line is that the
application fees could be lower if the evaluation process was less
expensive.
Chuck
Each application portfolio manager is, in effect, conducting a kind of
involuntary resource denial attack on ICANN, and all applicants (its
own included), by making the cost of application preparation scale.
CORE's .cat has kittens. We have contract management, and document
management, and ICANN application response management costs, but we
have only one and a bunch of fractional costs of actual application
preparation, and that's the biggie.
We'd like to signal to ICANN that "these e-reams of paper crudely
nailed together" are one application needing the standard duty of care
by the evaluator, and a bunch of edits off of that single application
each of which has very limited scope, and for which no standard duty
of care by the evaluator is warranted outside of these very limited
scopes.
We like to signal that the consumption of standard complete duty of
care units by the evaluator, a limited resources, by the N-1, can be
released back to the general resource pool, to be expended on other
applications, reducing the cost of the evaluation process.
Unfortunately, thus far in the DAGvX process, it is ICANN's volition
that its evaluation (defense) cost doesn't scale proportional to my
application (attack) cost. I can't tell you how frustrating its been
explaining that "independent evaluation" of identical applications is
only useful, as a question of method, in observing the behavior of the
evaluator, that is, as a perversely wasteful form of quality control.
Which evaluators "pass" .cat's clone? Which "fail" the same
application? What is the process utility in that?
This is why I followed up on the Edmon/Avri exchange. Useful
information that would lead to lower evaluation cost if used early,
exists in the case of every application brought by an existing
registry operator, and more generally, by any multi-application
author, where past applications as well as contemporanious
applications matter, even applications brought by some, though not
all, ccTLD registry operators ({.de, .se} yes, {.ir, .eg} no, as a
completely arbitrary example where I know the details), and in
particular, applications brought by an ASCII operator for a non-Latin
label, or more generally, for any set of applications which meet some
"contention" test based upon the assumption that the "contending"
applications are independent, not correlated.
This list's discussion mentioned in passing an area where cost savings
are significant, on the order of $1m, perhaps as much as $2m. It isn't
unique to IDN application, it just happens to be possible with these
applications as with other applications with some characteristics.
Writing this note has made me aware that some of the ccNSO members
have a material interest in the issues before this GNSO centric list.
I didn't realize that before this evening, beyond the IDN technical
consistency set of issues.
Eric
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