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Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Norms on Re-Opening

  • To: ChuckGomes <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, zahid@xxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx, owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx, gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx, victoria@xxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Norms on Re-Opening
  • From: SS Kshatriy <sskshatriy@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:04:49 -0700 (PDT)

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style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Victoria and Chuck,</DIV>
<DIV>I had once appreciated Chuck's arguing quality and power. I hold him in 
great esteem for that.</DIV>
<DIV>He can win in any situation.</DIV>
<DIV>Hats off to you Chuck.</DIV>
<DIV>warm regards,</DIV>
<DIV>SS</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>--- On <B>Sat, 10/10/09, victoria@xxxxxxxxxx 
<I>&lt;victoria@xxxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; 
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: victoria@xxxxxxxxxx 
&lt;victoria@xxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Norms on 
Re-Opening<BR>To: "Gomes, Chuck" &lt;cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, zahid@xxxxxxxxx, 
Glen@xxxxxxxxx, owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx, gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx<BR>Date: 
Saturday, October 10, 2009, 8:06 AM<BR><BR>
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I am sorry but Chuck as clarified on the call yesterday ---you have only the 
status of an ordinary WG member in this WG and you have no special 
jurisdiction. If you now contend to the contrary and contrary to yesterday 
---please explain how your special role operates. Thank you. Victoria
<DIV>Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device</DIV>
<HR>

<DIV><B>From: </B>"Gomes, Chuck" &lt;cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt; </DIV>
<DIV><B>Date: </B>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:38:05 -0400</DIV>
<DIV><B>To: </B>&lt;zahid@xxxxxxxxx&gt;; Victoria 
McEvedy&lt;victoria@xxxxxxxxxx&gt;; &lt;Glen@xxxxxxxxx&gt;; 
&lt;owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx&gt;; &lt;gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject: </B>RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Norms on Re-Opening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=297023114-10102009><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2 face=Arial>Julie</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=297023114-10102009><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=297023114-10102009><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2 face=Arial>In my role as chair of the OSC, I request that&nbsp;no one's 
participation records&nbsp;be eliminated from the record.&nbsp; First of all, I 
think we would need ICANN Counsel advice on whether&nbsp;that is 
permitted.&nbsp; Secondly, I would want to get the OSC to weigh in on this on 
behalf&nbsp;of the Council as part of its steering&nbsp;responsibilty. 
And&nbsp;third, elminating the participation of anyone or any group except for 
disciplinary reasons, which is not the case here,&nbsp;would go completely 
contrary to the Board approved GNSO improvement recommendations for which we 
are developing implementation recommendations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=297023114-10102009><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=297023114-10102009><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2 face=Arial>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Zahid Jamil [mailto:zahid@xxxxxxxxx] 
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Victoria 
McEvedy; Gomes, Chuck; Glen@xxxxxxxxx; owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx; 
gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Norms on 
Re-Opening<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Please also note that the reservation also extends to me as an 
individual and BC member. Many thanks.<BR><BR>Julie please confirm and record 
that my participation is expunged as requested consequent to objections raised 
by Victoria. Thanks.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR>Zahid Jamil<BR>Barrister-at-law<BR>Jamil &amp; 
Jamil<BR>Barristers-at-law<BR>219-221 Central Hotel Annexe<BR>Merewether Road, 
Karachi. Pakistan<BR>Cell: +923008238230<BR>Tel: +92 21 5680760 / 5685276 / 
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<DIV><B>From: </B>"Zahid Jamil" &lt;zahid@xxxxxxxxx&gt; </DIV>
<DIV><B>Date: </B>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:36:22 +0000</DIV>
<DIV><B>To: </B>Victoria McEvedy&lt;victoria@xxxxxxxxxx&gt;; Gomes, 
Chuck&lt;cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;; &lt;Glen@xxxxxxxxx&gt;; 
&lt;owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx&gt;; &lt;gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject: </B>Re: [gnso-osc-csg] Norms on Re-Opening</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Thank you for your thoughts Victoria.<BR><BR>I may have 
misunderstood the earlier invitation of the group despite them at that time 
having spent several months already on much work on drafts. If there is little 
room for late comers to be able to impact or meaningful contribute to the 
outcomes then I think it my responsibility to simply withdraw from the group to 
avoid giving an impression that either as an individual, BC member/rep or as a 
GNSO councillor I have provided any consent/acquiescence or contribution to the 
work/outcome of the group. I would request that my participation be expunged 
from the record as it cannot be meaningful and for reasons expressed by you, is 
unwelcome. <BR><BR>Please note that the BC reserves all rights to respond to 
any work/output of the group at the appropriate stage which remain 
unprejudiced.<BR><BR>Many thanks. Wishing your work all the 
best.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR>Zahid Jamil<BR>Barrister-at-law<BR>Jamil &amp; 
Jamil<BR>Barristers-at-law<BR>219-221 Central Hotel Annexe<BR>Merewether Road, 
Karachi. Pakistan<BR>Cell: +923008238230<BR>Tel: +92 21 5680760 / 5685276 / 
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<DIV><B>From: </B>"Victoria McEvedy" &lt;victoria@xxxxxxxxxx&gt; </DIV>
<DIV><B>Date: </B>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:51:32 +0100</DIV>
<DIV><B>To: </B>Gomes, Chuck&lt;cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;; 
&lt;zahid@xxxxxxxxx&gt;; &lt;Glen@xxxxxxxxx&gt;; 
&lt;owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx&gt;; &lt;gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject: </B>RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Norms on Re-Opening</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Chuck – I believe these are accepted norms but 
in any event they are now included in the following:</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
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<P class=MsoListParagraph><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 
'serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></I></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 
'serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>1.<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times 
New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 
'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The WG 
Implementation and Charter Drafting Guidelines at 1.3 “..<I>the Chair should be 
able to ensure that anyone joining a WG after it has begun has reviewed all 
documents and mailing list postings and agrees not to reopen&nbsp; previously 
decided questions.”</I></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 
'serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></I></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 
'serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN>2.<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times 
New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 
'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The Draft WG Model 
Guidebook – “<I>decisions that are made during a member’s absence or silence 
should not be resurrected unless there is group consensus that the issue should 
be revisited.”</I></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 
'serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></I></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">We spent some 6 months arguing many of the wider 
points now being raised and should not have to go over this ground again 
---particularly when we are making excellent progress on the actual language 
before us. Further, this is ‘tag negotiating’ –namely the introduction of fresh 
players at the end of negotiations who are not bound by concessions already 
made and who have an advantage over the exhausted participants. It is 
objectionable. &nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I would ask that the late joiners agree to 
re-read all previous meeting transcripts and/or listen to recordings and not to 
re-open.&nbsp; Personally I would rather avoid the exercise of now having to go 
through them all again to demonstrate that the issues were dealt with ---this 
WG has already demanded a great deal of working time (and some of us are not 
paid for our ICANN work). &nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If this is going to be a problem –then I think 
we should reconsider new members. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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<BR><B>Sent:</B> 10 October 2009 03:27<BR><B>To:</B> Victoria McEvedy; 
zahid@xxxxxxxxx; Glen@xxxxxxxxx; owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx; 
gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [gnso-osc-csg] 
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 
10pt">I am not aware of any restriction about reopening an issue. Regardless, 
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for a position and thereby be counted in the determination of rough consensus 
on the issue. <BR><BR>Chuck<BR><BR>Chuck Gomes</SPAN></DIV>
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'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">: owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx <BR><B>To</B>: 
Victoria McEvedy ; zahid@xxxxxxxxx ; Glen de Saint Géry ; 
owner-gnso-osc-csg@xxxxxxxxx ; gnso-osc-csg <BR><B>Sent</B>: Fri Oct 09 
18:45:50 2009<BR><B>Subject</B>: RE: [gnso-osc-csg] Uniformity </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Apologies for the short response earlier.. Zahid 
I refer you to the BGC Report: &nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
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<P style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 
'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The BGC Report at p.43 mandated 
the development of the following: </SPAN></DIV>
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<LI style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 10pt" 
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old 
Style', 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“…constituency-developed participation 
<B><I>rules </I></B>for <B>all</B> constituencies that encourage openness, 
transparency and accountability. The rules must adhere to the following&nbsp; 
<B><I>principles</I></B>..” </SPAN>
<LI style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 10pt" 
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old 
Style', 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“..clear operating <B><I>principles 
</I></B>for each constituency to ensure that all constituencies function in a 
representative, open, transparent and democratic manner. <B><I>Operating 
procedures</I></B> adopted by constituencies should reflect <B><I>common 
principles</I></B> and follow these <B><I>guidelines</I></B>:”<A title="" 
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The BGC summarized this in the following action item at p.46: 
“Proposed Action Item: The Board requests: (i) The GNSO constituencies, with 
assistance from Staff as needed, to develop a set of participation rules and 
operating procedures, consistent with the principles outlined above, <B>which 
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style', 'serif'; 
COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Zahid, this WG spent some 6 months on these 
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=FR>Just listening to 
the audio of the call I missed. Could someone point out to me where the board 
used the word uniformity in the boards approval of the improvements. Having 
difficulty to find it.<BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=FR>Subject: </SPAN></B><SPAN 
lang=FR>[gnso-osc-csg] MP3 Constituency Operations work team call / Friday 9 
October at 13:00 UTC.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 
'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear All,<BR><BR>Please find the MP3 
recording of the Constituency Operations work team call held on Friday 9 
October at 13:00 UTC.<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 
'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=FR><A 
href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-constituency-ops-20091009.mp3"; 
rel=nofollow 
target=_blank>http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-constituency-ops-20091009.mp3</A><BR>&nbsp;<BR>On
 page:<BR>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/index.html#<SPAN style="COLOR: 
#1f497d">oct</SPAN><BR><BR>Participants present:<SPAN style="COLOR: 
#1f497d"><BR></SPAN>Michael Young – Registries – vice chair<SPAN style="COLOR: 
#1f497d"><BR></SPAN>Rafik Dammak – NCUC<BR>Chuck Gomes – Registries 
<BR>Victoria McEvedy - IPC<BR>Claudio Digangi - IPC &nbsp;<BR>Tony Harris – ISP 
<BR>SS Kshatriya - Individual<BR><BR>ICANN Staff<BR>Glen de Saint Géry
 - GNSO Secretariat<BR>Julie Hedlund – Policy Staff<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Apologies<SPAN 
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><BR></SPAN>Olga Cavalli - work team chair – 
NCA<BR>Krista Papac – Registrar c.<BR>Zahid Jamil - CBUC<BR><BR>Thank 
you<BR>Kind regards<BR>Glen<BR>---------------------------- <BR>Glen de Saint 
Géry<BR>GNSO Secretariat<BR><A rel=nofollow>gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">The BGC summarized this in 
the following action item at p.46: “Proposed Action Item: The Board requests: 
(i) The GNSO constituencies, with assistance from Staff as needed, to develop a 
set of participation rules and operating procedures, consistent with the 
principles outlined above, which all constituencies should abide by. The ICANN 
Board should ask the constituencies to develop and publicize common principles 
within six months; and to implement operating rules and procedures consistent 
with those principles at that time.” </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 
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