Re: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 diversity by-law

[Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

But the parity notion mentioned by Jon, took that into account I  
assume. Yes, with only 3, you would also need 3 different regions and  
with 6 seats, you might have 2 from each of 3 regions.  Isn't that  
parity in the conditions for the stakeholder groups?  And if in some  
occasions it proves impossible, that is what the exceptions clause is  
for.
a.

On 5 Jun 2009, at 15:22, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

> I don't think so Avri.  First of all, no more than 1/3 of a single SG
> for the contracted house would mean that no more than one could be  
> from
> the same region so we wouldn't need "no more than two Stakeholder  
> Group
> Council representatives may be from the same ICANN geographic region".
> More importantly, no more than 1/3 of a single SG for the users house
> would mean that an SG could have two representatives from each of  
> three
> regions and none from two other regions.
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:57 PM
> > To: gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 diversity by-law
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Doesn't:
> >
> > > In order to insure geographical diversity, no more then
> > > 1/3 of a single Stakeholder group's representatives to the
> > Council can
> > > come from any single ICANN defined geographic region;
> > as suggested by Jon, cover those points?
> >
> > a.
> >
> >
> > On 5 Jun 2009, at 14:16, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Avri.  You made some good suggestions that should help us on
> > > this one.
> > >
> > > I would like to suggest though that you left out a couple elements
> > > that I think those of us on the small group were at least close to
> > > agreement on, recongizing that I cannot speak for the others:
> > >
> > > - To the extent possible, every stakeholder group should select
> > > Council representatives from different geographic regions.
> > (Note that
> > > this wording is new but I felt like the four of us supported this.)
> > >
> > > - "In all cases no more than two Stakeholder Group Council
> > > representatives may be from the same ICANN geographic region."
> > >
> > > First of all, let's see if there is support for these to
> > statements.
> > > If there is, then it wouldn't be hard to combine them with what you
> > > proposed.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 11:04 AM
> > > > To: gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: [gnso-restruc-dt] Q5 diversity by-law
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > As the conversation on this has come to a lull and somewhat of an
> > > > impasse, I would like to suggest some phrasing that I hope
> > helps in
> > > > reaching consensus on this important point.  In reading
> > the messages,
> > > > some of the important themes I picked up were:
> > > >
> > > > - there should be parity between the requirements on the SGs
> > > > - geographical diversity is necessary but difficult and
> > may sometime
> > > > require exceptions
> > > > - other forms of diversity including but not limited to sector and
> > > > skill set are also important, but harder to define in a
> > manner that
> > > > is appropriate for by-laws.
> > > >
> > > > Building on a suggestion made by Jon, I suggest the following for
> > > > discussion:
> > > >
> > > > Stakeholder Groups should ensure their representation on the GNSO
> > > > Council is as diverse as possible, including but not limited to
> > > > geographical region, sector and in terms of skill set.  In
> > order to
> > > > insure geographical diversity, no more then
> > > > 1/3 of a single Stakeholder groups representatives to the
> > Council can
> > > > come from any single ICANN defined geographic region;  any
> > exception
> > > > to this requirement must be approved by a 2/3 vote of both
> > houses.
> > > > In terms of other forms of diversity, SG rules and
> > procedures as well
> > > > as outreach programs must be put into place to insure maximum
> > > > possible diversity in all areas.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > a.