RE: [gnso-irtpd] Example email string

[rob.golding@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

> But this type of issue is exactly the one Registrants
> are seeking a remedy for within ICANN.
The 'claim' is that the transfer (validly completed) was 'fraudulent' 
because they allowed their details to be exploited/phished/socially 
engineered or whatever - that's going to need someone to 
investigate/prove/identify the details of the hack/exploit/scam.
Ideally that's a job for the courts and specialists, not ICANN, not a 
Registrar etc (in many cases) - a *crime* has been committed - we're not 
'judges' or qualified to make decisions about that.
I hear the 'I've been hacked' story 100 times a week - usually after 
terminating a spammers services.
One of the funniest was Monday someone claiming they never ordered 
something, and that we're been 'illegally taking money' from their bank 
account - obviously they must have been 'hacked' (and accused us of 
doing it)
This is after the order came from their IP, it was paid (and 3d-secured 
at their bank) on their Debit card, they'd raised 3 support 
tickets/questions in the preceding month, we'd spoken to them by phone 
at least once ...
'I must have been hacked' translates into 'oh sh!t I forgot to cancel 
something I dont think I want anymore and rather than being reasonable 
and asking the company for a refund that they probably would have given 
without issue, I tried to fvck them over with bullcrap claims'
As to the email-chain that started the thread, who is to determine they 
didnt sell the domains and now have buyers-remorse ? Or had their assets 
seized by the FBI ? or a million other possibilities ...
> I disagree with the position that a party using illegally obtained
> credentials
I'm merely saying the *correct* credentials were used - if there is a 
claim that the obtaining of those is 'illegal' then go seek 'legal' 
counsel.
Rob