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[gnso-pednr-dt] User's concerns related to Post Expiry Domain Name Recovery.

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  • Subject: [gnso-pednr-dt] User's concerns related to Post Expiry Domain Name Recovery.
  • From: Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:50:02 +0530

Hello Alan

Post Expiry Domain Name Recovery issues are actually a subcomponent of the
overall issues of unbalanced business practices prevailing in the domain
industry that need to be addressed.

Post Expiry Domain Name recovery becomes difficult essentially because there
are far greater benefits for the Registrars to let the domain name expire
than to allow the Registrant sufficient time space to renew the domain name.
Expired domain names go to the Registrar's silo, taken over and set to
resolve to a Pay Per Click advertisements page, speculated and auctioned off
for far greater profits.

If expired domain names were to be released back into the system after a
sufficient time gap for recovery, then there may not be any PEDNR issues.

But the domain industry has operated this way for the last fifteen years and
the business models of Registries and Registrars revolve around such
business practices.  It may be harsh on this business sector if ICANN were
to force reforms that will reduce the business of domain name registration
to a business of simple margins of a dollar or two per registration.

At the same time, the hard questions that I have raised in the group
ought not be completely suppressed.

To summarize for record, the following reflect some of my concerns which are
not reflected in any of the summaries that you have generated:

Ownership of Domain Names:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00216.html

Expiry Warnings: Registrars and Resellers:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00280.html

Cost of Recovery during the Grace Period:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00243.html

Registration Agreement and Need for a User Organization's involvement in
negotiating terms:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00386.html
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00368.html
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00383.html

One specific suggestion in this context was that users' groups such as
at-Large and NCSG should look into / negotiate the terms of the average
contract between the Registrar and Registrant.

Email functionality:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00391.html
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00369.html

Comments posted as part of my response to a Working Group Survey:

PEDNR WG - Survey Results - 10 March
2010.pdf<https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/post-expiration-dn-recovery-wg/attachments/post_expiration_domain_name_recovery_wg:20100310131934-0-12191/original/PEDNR%20WG%20-%20Survey%20Results%20-%2010%20March%202010.pdf>

(
https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/post-expiration-dn-recovery-wg/attachments/post_expiration_domain_name_recovery_wg:20100310131934-0-12191/original/PEDNR%20WG%20-%20Survey%20Results%20-%2010%20March%202010.pdf)

But the above document was 'reorganized' to remove some important comments
with a new document that actually replaced the survey results as originally
compiled as above. I raised my concerns in the following messages:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00339.html
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00439.html

But these objections seem not to have been noted.

Your recent proposals
http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-pednr-dt/msg00529.html are nothing more
than a verbose list of thin and marginal changes to the PEDNR
situation. Your proposals are easy, too diluted and definitely distract the
attention away from the real issues. This proposal would be perfectly
alright if it had come from the Registrar stakeholder group. It would have
naturally attained a balance by co-examining such a proposal with another
user-centric proposal.

But you present them more as a representative from ALAC with the result that
user's concerns are reduced to a call for thin and marginal changes devoid
of any real purpose or benefit.

Sivasubramanian M

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