Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Updated Wiki for Vertical Integration WG

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Eric,

Thanks for this detailed and precise answer.

Stéphane

Le 22 mars 2010 à 18:22, Eric Brunner-Williams a écrit :

> 
> For those not on the FF PDP, towards the end of the period in which
> Mickey chaired the group, the calls got pretty difficult. I recall Joe
> St. Sauver demanding if someone who disagreed with him wasn't a
> spammer. Dave Piscatello was almost as collegial with anyone who
> didn't share his limited background.
> 
> A faction of the FF PDP WG were claiming that all registrars had to
> run 24x7x365 operations, "because the bad guys don't sleep", utterly
> ignoring the access cost and volume relation exploited by FF authors.
> 
> It was wicked ugly. I organized side-bar calls with the RrC
> contributors, and then jointly with the RrC and RyC contributors, but
> in the end, it was simpler to just exit.
> 
> The Liaison to the GNSO Council reported that the group was on track
> and reported no problems. After hearing that I'd no further interest
> in the PDP.
> 
> From my own point of view, as an early contributor to the FF PDP WG,
> the group had been captured, Mickey's resignation as Chair and the
> movement of serious work elsewhere were symptoms of process failure.
> 
> Chairs don't fail process, participants run amok fail process.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> On 3/22/10 5:33 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh wrote:
>> 
>> Mikey,
>> 
>> I appreciate your willingness to chair (or co-chair) another group, but am
>> concerned since last time you volunteered to chair a WG you quit that post
>> midway through.  In considering your candidacy, this group deserves some
>> brief explanation as to why you did that, and some assurances as to why it
>> is not likely to happen again.  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> Mike Rodenbaugh
>> RODENBAUGH LAW
>> tel/fax:  +1 (415) 738-8087
>> http://rodenbaugh.com 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor
>> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:16 PM
>> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Updated Wiki for Vertical Integration WG
>> 
>> 
>> let me add my thanks, Berry.
>> 
>> to all -- i'll only make a brief acknowledgement now, in keeping with
>> Milton's point of not getting too deep into the meat of things until the
>> deadline for volunteers has passed.  again i'd like to thank Berry for
>> submitting my name and would be happy to stand for Chair.  i'll post a
>> longer note on Tuesday when the membership is complete.
>> 
>> several points to consider:
>> 
>> - my stance is quite neutral, and i would not vote or lobby for a position
>> if i were selected as Chair
>> 
>> - i would welcome some Vice-Chairs -- partly to spread the load on what is
>> likely to be a pretty intense bit of work, and partly to allow some of the
>> advocates to participate in the leadership.
>> 
>> mikey
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you Berry.
>>> 
>>> Stéphane
>>> 
>>> Le 20 mars 2010 à 15:52, Berry Cobb a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Stéphane,
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to thank you for your efforts as Interim Chair and
>> maintaining
>>>> the forward momentum.
>>>> 
>>>> If possible, I would like to go ahead and nominate Mike O'Conner as Chair
>> or
>>>> Co-Chair.  Given the size of the group and complexity of the topic, it
>> may
>>>> benefit to have Co-Chairs.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> Berry A. Cobb
>>>> Infinity Portals LLC
>>>> 866.921.8891
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 04:58
>>>> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Updated Wiki for Vertical Integration WG
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Margie.
>>>> 
>>>> With an updated list of group members now up on the wiki, could I remind
>>>> people that it would be helpful to have nominations for Chair start
>> coming
>>>> in asap. It would be good to have some names to consider during our call
>>>> next week.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Stéphane
>>>> 
>>>> Le 19 mars 2010 à 19:34, Margie Milam a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have updated the WIKI for the VI Working Group with additional
>>>> information to include the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   1. List of current volunteers 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   2. New Resource Page that includes many of the VI proposals
>>>> submitted by the Community and Staff 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   3. Agenda for the first meeting
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let me know if there are other proposals or documents that should
>>>> be included on the Resource Page.  Also, please complete the Doodle for
>> our
>>>> first meeting by the close of business today.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Margie
>>>>> 
>>>>> ____________
>>>>> Margie Milam
>>>>> Senior Policy Counselor
>>>>> ICANN
>>>>> ____________
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wiki Link:  https://st.icann.org/vert-integration-pdp/index.cgi
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doodle:  http://www.doodle.com/ts9nv44fsfa2rc4i
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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