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Username: doc again
Date/Time: Sun, November 12, 2000 at 9:56 PM GMT
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Subject: Isn't your second point actually an argument against Sunrise?

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I agree with your first point.

This would be the argument FOR having a sunrise period.

I don't entirely trust the assumptions you make that generic names will not be registered.

Even if the registries flood in the second the sunrise period ends - those coming from withing Afilias would we done first. By the time you
yourself can access the .web you will be in the same position as you are now with .tv or .org etc. Big companies will blitz this thing on day one. By the time you get home from work you can be fairly sure that Kristopher.web has been registerd as will most other first names.

Actually I just checked and Kristopher.web is available with IOD. If you want it then now is your best ever chance to have it! Of course
not everyone wants their first name (and with a name like Doc you dont stand much of a chance anyway!!!).


I take issue with your second point though.

Just because Apple own the trademark for "apple" then why should they get Apple.web?

Apple was a record label before it was a computer badge and this issue was argued for many years. The point is that if you run - for
example an online fruit and veg business then apple.web is approriate and in no way confusing to the computer user looking for branded
spares.

This is very different from the child that registered Appleimac.com a short time ago. You'd be hard pressed to justify that one.

The point is that these disputes are best resolved as they happen.

Apple for example might well register apple.web imac.web appleimac.web imacapple.web and so on during the sunrise period. If the fail
to register apple-computers-here.web what happens then?

The permutations are innumerable and it is really only an issue if the brand is damaged or put in jeopardy. Hense Kieth Macdonnald could
quite happily have his web site Macdonnalds.web and why shouldn't he?

If he chooses to set up a burger site, or a milk shake business or an abatoir site however then and only then will he find himself in hot water (actually a hot water site could also get him in trouble come to think of it!).

There is also the issue that Afilias would check the exact trademark - for example Macdonalds.web Macdonnalds.web Macdonald.web and Mcdonnalds.web would not all be available to the burger people.

I'm sure these companies must want to register the msispellings etc.

Affilias.com must be kicking themselves that they didn't register Afilias.com by now.

I read that Dosney.com was a porn site. After the owner tried to sell it to Disney it was awarded to them in court. A sunrise period would never have avoided that sort of dispute either.

The IOD policy of allowing trademark holders time to question or challenge domains registered with them makes sense.

Quite what the cococola.web fellow thinks he is doing I do not know!!!

IOD have said that he (and all others)can exchange his site for a less trademarked one at no extra cost. You cant get fairer than that.

The point is it isn't just the actual trademark that is the worry.

For example Apple.web set up to be nothing about computers does no harm at all but under the sunrise period rules, apple could not register "applemacs-are-rubbish.web" or spple.web to catch the mistype meaning that someone else can register these and do what they want with them -back to square one!

Sunrise doesn't work but it will stop the public getting at the names they want and it is the shortage of good names that is the driving force here.
                                       
     
     

 


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