Re: [gnso-travel-dt] Re: TRAVEL DRAFTING TEAM COMMENTS NEEDED - Travel funding request from the Vertical Integration WG co-chairs

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Olga,

What is the decision you are making as chair of this DT? I am happy to 
communicate whatever decision you make to the co-chairs, as Council liaison.

Thanks,

Stéphane

Le 25 mai 2010 à 23:41, Olga Cavalli a écrit :

> Hi,
> thanks everyone for the active exchange of ideas.
> 
> As I have mentioned before, the Travel drafting team has already scheduled a 
> meeting with Kevin Wilson and Icann travel staff in Brussels to discuss this 
> and other issues of interest related with travel funding, like participation 
> in Board meeting  on Fridays and possible funded participation in outreach 
> activities.
> 
> All of you are welcome to join in this meeting, I will send an email before 
> to organize these items in the agenda and summarizing comments that have been 
> already expressed in this list, also any other ideas are welcome.
> 
> As per the participation of VI co-chairs in Brussels, for what I have read in 
> the list one possible situation could be:
> 
> - one co chair is participating
> - the other co chair could participate remotely
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> As per remote charing, I did this in Nairobi with the OSC CSG WT that I chair 
> , as I was not be there for personal reasons, and the meeting went very well.
> 
> Another question, which would be the way to communicate this to the 
> co-chairs? Are you Stéphane as liaison to the group the one to communicate 
> this or it should be done by the GNSO?
> 
> Your comments are welcome and thanks again.
> 
> Regards
> Olga
> 
> 
> 
> 2010/5/25 <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Thanks Maria. Completely agree.
> 
> Tim
> From: Maria Farrell <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:58:46 -0400
> To: Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Avri Doria<avri@xxxxxxx>; <gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-travel-dt] Re: TRAVEL DRAFTING TEAM COMMENTS NEEDED - 
> Travel funding request from the Vertical Integration WG co-chairs
> 
> Well that all sounds pretty reasonable to me: i.e. the travel can't be 
> supported this time but Avri's suggestion for making slots available could 
> help in the future.  It seems that the group can manage well enough without a 
> co-chair being physically present on this occasion, and there is no need to 
> risk adding a precedent to the ever-expanding set of exceptions and 
> emergencies.
>  
> All the best, Maria
> 
> 2010/5/25 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Sorry, I absolutely did not need to imply that they were unwilling to pay, of 
> course they may not have the means. As stated before, I don't even think 
> there's any need for discussion on the fact that they are working to help 
> Icann and therefore, whether they have the means or not, should not be 
> expected to foot the bill for coming. On the other hand, if Icann puts on 
> proper remote participation capabilities, they don't need to be physically 
> there so that works as well. I can coordinate the meeting on the ground, if 
> that is the option they run with.
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> Le 25 mai 2010 à 19:10, Avri Doria a écrit :
> 
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Have the council liaison chair the meeting with the assistance of the 
> > Policy Staff coordinator for the Working Group?
> >
> > Note: it may not be a willingness to pay, it may also be the ability to pay.
> >
> > a.
> >
> > On 25 May 2010, at 13:07, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
> >
> >> What should we do if none of the co-chairs are willing to pay their own 
> >> way to come?
> >>
> >> Le 25 mai 2010 à 18:31, Avri Doria a écrit :
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> If at least one of the co-chairs will be there. I am probably ok with the 
> >>> answer.  And assuming that there will be good remote facilities in the 
> >>> meeting room, the WG should be able to get by.
> >>>
> >>> a.
> >>>
> >>> On 25 May 2010, at 12:23, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You make a good point and I was asking myself the same question. We can 
> >>>> work on a long-term solution, but I frankly don't see any way of coming 
> >>>> up with one for this short term need.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was thinking I should go back to the VI co-chairs and tell them that 
> >>>> there's really nothing that can be done at such short notice.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do people agree with that approach?
> >>>>
> >>>> Stéphane
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 25 mai 2010 à 18:18, Avri Doria a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 25 May 2010, at 09:16, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> But I think the important point here is: can the Council as a whole 
> >>>>>> step in and donate a slot in cases such as these, and would that be a 
> >>>>>> fair and practical way of dealing with issues such as this one?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Something like:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Every SG will donate N (orN/2 depending on the number of slots 
> >>>>> available to the SG) travel slots a year for emergency needs such as 
> >>>>> getting a WG chair to a meeting?  And if this is what the team decides 
> >>>>> I will take it back to the NCSG with my personal support (yes and 
> >>>>> including the recommendation that we would do our fair share)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But who would go first to solve the issue this time?  Obviously 
> >>>>> sometimes the person is a member of a particular SG group so hopefully 
> >>>>> they can do this.  But sometime she or he won't be.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Otherwise, are there any suggestions on the way to solve this since 
> >>>>> mine seems so very shot down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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