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RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Work-planning
- To: "'Roberto Gaetano'" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>, <Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Work-planning
- From: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:23:27 -0400
Roberto,
Perhaps there is value from both perspectives. Isn't a marketplace in which
there are limited/no harm to consumers a benefit, whereas a marketplace in
which there is actually/potential harm to consumers not much of a benefit?
This issue is one with multi-facets to it, and therefore must be analyzed in
various lights and angles. To date most of the bandwidth in the discussion
has been sucked up by registries arguing about the potential harm of
vertical integration/common ownership, and registrars seeking to enter the
marketplace touting the potential benefits and whining about how incumbents
are trying to protect their market.
In the proposal I presented in connection with ICANN's webinar on this
subject prior to Seoul, I tried to split the proverbial baby down the
middle. I provided a path forward in which registries would be subject to
increase competition through registrar owned registrars incorporating
appropriate consumer/competition safeguards, and where registrars had to let
go of their distribution monopoly in the ICANN gTLD marketplace by allowing
registries to go direct in certain circumstances.
Unfortunately, most in the registrar community only want to talk about how
registries need to make concession in opening up their market, while at the
same time protecting their market through the mandated use of registrars in
every potential business model (Recommendation #19). Notwithstanding the
fact that ICANN's own economist recognized the inefficiencies of requiring
new registries to use registrars. Unfortunately, that point is often glossed
over by the registrars in this debate.
Just my two cents.
Best regards,
Michael
From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Roberto Gaetano
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 4:29 PM
To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Work-planning
Mmmmhhh...
I thought it wat the other way around, i.e.:
In what circumstances might consumers have advantages if a registry owns (or
in some other way controls) a retail supplier of its names?
In other words, the "default" being vertical separation, in which cases
vertical integration would produce benefit.
R.
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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Richard Tindal
Sent: Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:11
To: Mike O'Connor; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Work-planning
Mikey
Thanks for the hard work. This sort of process and structure will help get
us there.
As a general observation, I don't think we should be too daunted by the
scope and timeline of the PDP. At its essence, the question we're asked is
simple:
In what circumstances might consumers be harmed by a registry owning (or in
some other way controlling) a retail supplier of its names?
I dont think it's that difficult a question. I believe we'll get there
before Brussels
RT
On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
hi all,
i wanted to share a little document that i've been chipping away at over the
last few days. i'm *most* appreciative of the dialog on the list and would
like to stimulate a little more before our meeting next Monday. advance
alert, i have no editorial pride and am actively looking for thoughts.
this deck is mostly about the way that we might approach our work. i've
laid out a series of approaches, a little analysis of the pros and cons of
each. of course, picking an approach to the work will also define the scope
and thus the content and impact of the work as well. so picking an approach
is more than just an exercise in project management.
there have been lots and lots of very helpful posts about this and we've
been reading them closely and discussing the implications amongst the
leadership group. i'm thinking that this draft is in good enough shape to
put in front of the rest of you for comments/improvements.
apologies in advance for the slide-deck, bullet-point format. i know it can
drive people crazy. it's just the tool i use to think about things like
this. please give this a read and comment back on this thread. we'll be
reading closely and i will work your thoughts into the next draft for
discussion during the call on Monday.
thanks!
mikey
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