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Richard Flint |
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Thu, October 19, 2000 at 9:30 PM GMT |
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Not a good idea |
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There are some serious problems with this proposal and I think that it should
be discussed further.The concept and practice of work organization and trade unionism
is very different in different countries and there is not an international
consensus on what is a “union”. The social democratic trade unions of Western Europe
and the United States AFL set up the “International Confederation of Free Trade
Unions” (ICFTU) in thr 1940s in to opposition to the communist “World Federation
of Trade Unions”(WFTU) and the Christian “World Confederation of Labour” (WCL).
Now that the Cold war is over, most, but not all trade union bodies are members
of the ICFTU. Not all ICFTU members are democratic or even vaguely controlled by
their members. European and American money was generously used in supporting
many members who are blatantly undemocratic organizations. These problems
are regularly played out in the United Nations International Labour Organization
{ILO), which uniquely has voting workers representatives. There are constant
arguments among governments and organization about who can be at the ILO. So
how does this body deal with disputes about who is a real trade union? The answer
is very badly. This is the problem with this proposal. Not everyone even agrees
on what a union is. I am a trade union member and activist with some experience
of international work and some experience of the internet . At this point,
I cannot support this proposal.
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Message Thread:
- .union Application by International Confederation of Free Trade Unions (ICFTU) Moderator, October 7 @ 10:01 PM (107/118)
- Support for .union fnpsf-cgt, December 22 @ 7:10 PM (0/0)
- .union TLD Dan Yager, November 5 @ 8:14 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot union HRHL, November 5 @ 10:57 AM (0/0)
- Support message kristina, November 4 @ 7:30 PM (0/0)
- setting up a union top level domain on the internet twu, November 3 @ 10:11 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union Manon Ress, November 3 @ 9:14 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union AFA07, November 3 @ 7:09 PM (0/0)
- Yes, do it! meretz, November 3 @ 1:21 PM (0/0)
- .union proposal Daly, November 2 @ 2:46 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union LCJapan, November 2 @ 7:48 AM (0/0)
- Support tor .union Bernie Corbett, November 1 @ 1:25 PM (0/0)
- we support the trade union proposal miquel, November 1 @ 10:25 AM (0/0)
- suport for .union terje, October 31 @ 10:47 PM (0/0)
- IPMS supports dot union Lynn Stephenson, October 31 @ 5:59 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union IFBWW, October 31 @ 4:30 PM (0/0)
- support for union Freek, October 31 @ 6:38 AM (0/0)
- .union ipaterson, October 30 @ 10:08 PM (0/0)
- Suport for .union ovemh, October 30 @ 8:58 PM (0/0)
- support for .union LO-N, October 30 @ 11:25 AM (0/0)
- union Application by International Confederation of Free Trade Unions (ICFTU) stgunnes, October 30 @ 10:07 AM (0/0)
- support for .union Helga Svendsen, October 30 @ 5:23 AM (0/0)
- Support for dot union Magne, October 28 @ 9:12 AM (0/0)
- .union proposal Art, October 28 @ 4:16 AM (0/0)
- Pride At Work Supports .union Kkualii, October 28 @ 12:09 AM (0/0)
- Support for .union Richard_S, October 27 @ 3:30 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union violetlight, October 27 @ 3:27 PM (0/0)
- Support .union lescault, October 27 @ 3:23 PM (0/0)
- ICANN Niki, October 27 @ 2:57 PM (0/0)
- Domain union budreaua, October 27 @ 1:06 PM (0/0)
- SUPPORT FOR UNION DOMAIN NAME arqitekt, October 27 @ 10:28 AM (0/0)
- support for the ICFTU proposal re tld ".union" peter murphy, October 27 @ 4:10 AM (0/0)
- Support for .union lobo, October 26 @ 10:58 AM (0/0)
- dot union julie bignell, October 26 @ 8:50 AM (0/0)
- Approve ".union" Internet extension Timothy Engels, October 25 @ 1:47 PM (0/0)
- Support for ".union" gilbert, October 25 @ 8:12 AM (0/0)
- Support of dot union proposal Espen, October 25 @ 7:57 AM (0/0)
- .union jceille, October 24 @ 8:57 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot.union sabocat, October 24 @ 2:06 PM (0/0)
- whole hearted support of .union csnead, October 24 @ 1:17 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot union mayafan, October 24 @ 1:05 PM (1/1)
- Support for dot.union Connect, October 24 @ 9:33 AM (0/0)
- We support the trade union proposal! nomet, October 24 @ 9:26 AM (0/0)
- support esr4, October 24 @ 4:17 AM (0/0)
- Support for .Union JRussell, October 23 @ 10:14 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union kwru, October 23 @ 9:19 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot union Perry, October 23 @ 8:21 PM (0/0)
- No on .union redbeard, October 23 @ 7:21 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union rmberkowitz, October 23 @ 6:48 PM (0/0)
- I strongly support .union xernaut, October 23 @ 5:58 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot .union MichaelL, October 23 @ 5:10 PM (0/0)
- whole hearted support winnie9898, October 23 @ 5:07 PM (0/0)
- big buisness bingo, October 23 @ 4:32 PM (0/0)
- dot union-application by ICFTU SPchig, October 23 @ 4:32 PM (0/0)
- I support noncommercial .union domain Therese Quinn, October 23 @ 3:40 PM (0/0)
- YES ceberr, October 23 @ 3:34 PM (0/0)
- Dot.Union - YES cykonno, October 23 @ 7:29 AM (0/0)
- .UNION rfretel, October 23 @ 7:21 AM (0/0)
- support .union mpolson, October 22 @ 11:49 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot union Brad, October 22 @ 10:52 AM (0/0)
- ICFTU application for dotunion TLDs jasondotcom, October 22 @ 10:49 AM (0/0)
- UnionTLD angie, October 22 @ 8:06 AM (0/0)
- dot union richard55, October 22 @ 12:22 AM (0/0)
- connect the dots mbj, October 21 @ 8:42 PM (0/0)
- Supporting the dot union/syndicat Segol, October 21 @ 4:31 PM (0/0)
- I support the proposal .union on Internet orichet, October 21 @ 1:57 PM (2/2)
- Yes - dot union salmela, October 21 @ 1:23 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot .syndicat LeGrand, October 20 @ 11:16 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot union alevin, October 20 @ 9:07 PM (0/0)
- I support .union kilmer, October 20 @ 8:31 PM (1/1)
- We support the trade union proposal Jose Marcos-Sanchez, October 20 @ 5:58 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union Olyves, October 20 @ 1:49 PM (0/0)
- YES for new TLD dot union BETOR, October 20 @ 1:31 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union TLD usdaw, October 20 @ 1:04 PM (0/0)
- OK Go on ARIANA, October 20 @ 12:21 AM (0/0)
- Support for dot union FrancoisM, October 20 @ 12:10 AM (1/1)
- Support for dot union henri, October 20 @ 12:07 AM (0/0)
- Support for dot.union Vadim Borisov, October 20 @ 9:37 AM (0/0)
- Support for dot.union leppik, October 20 @ 9:30 AM (0/0)
- Not a good idea Richard Flint, October 19 @ 9:30 PM (1/1)
- Support for .union werhane, October 19 @ 8:27 PM (0/0)
- Support for ".union" lmfernandez, October 19 @ 2:39 PM (0/0)
- union tld tutaref, October 19 @ 1:00 PM (0/0)
- COSATU supports ICFTU's .union TLD proposal Charley Lewis (COSATU), October 19 @ 9:15 AM (0/0)
- I support .union domain name edlfler, October 19 @ 4:45 AM (0/0)
- tld.union arun, October 19 @ 3:51 AM (0/0)
- Proposition to ICANN, Applicants & Internet Community Pistoff, October 18 @ 6:43 PM (0/0)
- support for .union pgrugan, October 18 @ 4:22 PM (0/0)
- support for dot union domain from the UK's TUC nigel stanley, October 18 @ 3:19 PM (0/0)
- support for .union noe420, October 18 @ 2:14 PM (0/0)
- support .union iufmos, October 18 @ 12:16 AM (0/0)
- support for .union Lika Galkina, October 18 @ 11:32 AM (0/0)
- Support for dot.union CTUC, October 18 @ 9:34 AM (0/0)
- I support .union migrantworker, October 18 @ 9:09 AM (1/1)
- .union is universally appropriate GeneHaldeman, October 18 @ 2:38 AM (0/0)
- NUGFW supports dot union NUGFW, October 17 @ 9:40 PM (0/0)
- support for .union Peter_Cole, October 17 @ 9:26 PM (0/0)
- More support for dot union labrlwyr, October 17 @ 7:15 PM (0/0)
- The DGC supports the .union TLD application DGC, October 17 @ 6:14 PM (0/0)
- support for .union davidc, October 17 @ 6:09 PM (0/0)
- Support for dot.union Seth Wigderson, October 17 @ 4:06 PM (0/0)
- .union tld co-rowan, October 17 @ 3:43 PM (0/0)
- Support for .union JLDENV, October 17 @ 3:17 PM (0/0)
- support for .union mo'sullivan, October 17 @ 5:34 AM (1/1)
- Support for dot.union asubrigid, October 17 @ 4:36 AM (0/0)
- Support for dot union ccaruso, October 17 @ 1:52 AM (0/0)
- Support for .union UNI, October 16 @ 1:58 PM (1/1)
- Support for dot union neila, October 16 @ 1:02 PM (1/2)
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