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Username: brahim_m
Date/Time: Sun, October 29, 2000 at 3:02 PM GMT
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Subject: Shouldn't .kids be an international domain?


We have allowed the so called freedoms of the Internet to go too far and it is time to reclaim a portion of it as a safe place for our kids to play, communicate, and
learn. I often advise our visitors that the

I can only assume in mute horror (well, not so mute, I guess :-) ) that you are joking.  First of all whose kids are you talking about?  Yours, someone's in Saudia Arabia, someone's in Sweden?  These
kids may all require a very different "playground".  You see, your kids, with average (US??) value system may consider displays of "innocent affection" acceptable, while any suggestive sexual display is "blatant pornography" (I'm not saying isn't, mind you but not everything YOU think necassarily is).  Saudia children however are supposed to be taught that it is inappropriate for women to even assume the role of a man -- including driving in public.  Swedes on the otherhand believe that their children should be exposed to very open sexuallity and that they should not repress their natural instincts (I guess I let my personal feelings come out here :-) ).  How do you, or KDI for that matter, propose to meet the cultural requirements of all these different countries, to say nothing of individual differences within a country.  I hope you do not propose to relegate these issues to ccTLDs with the .kids defaulting to US cultural sensibilities.

If I may point out some concrete examples off KDI's TLD policy page:

"It is illegal to sell alcohol to minors in all 50 US States."

thus (in table format):

"Because children are the only constituency, the advertising of alcoholic products, promotion by and for the alcohol industry, links to alcohol industry sites or promotional material will be strictly prohibited on .kids websites."

Guess what -- many french people think kids should drink wine (oh, horror of horrors)!


"The first amendment does not protect threats, and that includes racial epithets and racial animus."

"The laws regarding the distribution of pornography to minors in the will apply to all sites in the .kids network."

"The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 states ..."

I think that's enough.  Yes, the US does host by far the vast majority of the Internet, and yes, it may even have some admirable moral standards (though I think people familiar with what real freedom of speech and thought are in some parts of the world might find the US a little stuffy), but there is a wider world out there, and we'd like to be part of the Internet as well.  KDI has demonstrated an insufferable callousness to this issue ... I didn't see mention of any kind of internationl orientation in their registration policy what so ever (I admit, I was just skimming, but I certainly didn't get any sense of it).  At least the other .kids proposal's have some awareness of the issue -- dotKids mentions something about an international regionally based kids policies (well, I kind of skimmed there as well, but if you check you'll probably find it).

Therefore, KidSurf Online supports this application and rejects the others due to their non-restrictive nature. If there are not policies and an approval process, th
en we will find just another mirror of
I question the motives of those who make applications for .kids without policies in place to assure the safety of our kids. Is the interest only in exploiting the TL
D for monetary gain or is it truly in the best interest of our children?

Exactly why do you think KDI's regulatory system is superior to everyone elses.  KDI seems to make the same vague generalizations about registrar's needing to agree to some .kids regulatory contract and having to sign in.  They vaguely touch on the issue of self-audits or independent audits of larger sites.  I havn't found any detailed description of how this is to be fairly and effectively enacted.  Obviously any .kids application will require registrars to adhere to some kind of contract, and audits will be necassary to enforse these contracts or else the whole idea of a "child-safe" internet won't work, but why do you think KDI is so well positioned to do it?  I, for one, find it unacceptable that a company proposing to regulate a "green-light district" of internet for children has demonstrated a complete ignorance of the world beyond their own national borders, defying the concept of the Internet and international organizations such as a ICANN and IANA that are supposed to regulate it
for EVERYBODY's benefit.

Brahim Meloud



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