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Your point regarding IOD's .web is based upon the fact
that this registry is not part of the A-root. For if it already were, your
argument would be moot. So, let's talk about open and fariness specific to registries
within the A-root (NSI is the only one that is, by the way). You will see from
reading below that NSI has compromised the integrity of their registry database specifc
to the A-root for their own potential financial gain and Afilias is proposing to
copy this exact process. My understanding that, per the registrar accredation agreement,
a registrar can not register domain names to themselves. To do so would be
in direct violation of their agreement with ICANN. NSI, the registry, however,
auto-renews each domain name registration on its anniversary date. They then
charge the registrar $6 for this service. The registrar has a certain time period,
like 30 days or something after anniversary date, to notify the NSI registry that
(the customer) is not renewing a specific registration. Upon this notification,
the NSI registry then deletes the name for anyone to register. The obvious conflict
of interest here is that NSI is also a registrar (the largest by the way).
To their own advantage, NSI the registrar can choose to not notify their own registry
'to delete' thus allowing the registry to hold the name on the grounds they have
a right to get their $6 back. This is exactly the statement NSI has gone on record
as stating. They have also stated a desire to use their own auction site as
the vehicle to recoup the $6. They have not, to my knowledge, stated what they
plan to do with the 'on-top' proceeds from such an auction. Donating to charity
is probably not on their list, however. My question has been for some time who
is the registrant of record of the domain name during the time period NSI the registry
is trying to recoup the $6. Up to now, the original registrant has been able
to pay for the domain during this time even though 1) it is long past due and 2)
this registrant may no longer desire to retain the name. NSI can not be the
registrant of record else they would be in direct violation of their registrar accredition
agreement with ICANN(otherwise they would, I am sure). So, it is really the registry
that is forcing this action (in cohoots with their own registrar). This, to
me, is a serious compromise of database integrity on the part of the NSI registry
strictly for their own potential financial gain. Purposely allowing such a compromise
to take place poses serious questions as to whether NSI should, in any way, be involved
in any additional registries. A compromise in database integrity, let alone
a willful compromise, can not be tolerated. Afilias, to their arrogance, has submitted
an application that duplicates this exact process. I can point to the wording
should anyone care to have me to. The ICANN has been very silent up to now regarding
this issue. Hopefully, they plan to address it as part of their upcoming meetings
in November. Ray
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Message Thread:
- .info, etc. Application by Afilias, LLC Moderator, October 7 @ 10:21 PM (57/145)
- Afilias must WAIT! first1, November 5 @ 3:45 PM (0/0)
- ICANN: we know you are listening and we are confident in your fairness fabrcop, November 5 @ 10:06 AM (0/0)
- .info to Afilias & .web to IODesign H, November 3 @ 11:12 PM (1/1)
- VOTE YES to .WEB, YES to .SITE but NO to AFILIAS Anthony 2nd, November 3 @ 8:52 PM (1/1)
- ......Regarding .WEB: Vote YES to Image Online Design // Vote NO to Afilias ! icann_, November 1 @ 11:31 PM (0/0)
- Regarding .WEB: Vote YES to Image Online Design // Vote NO to Afilias y2k, November 1 @ 11:21 PM (0/0)
- ....Regarding .WEB: Vote NO to Afilias // Vote YES to Image Online Design ! y2k, November 1 @ 10:47 PM (0/0)
- ICANN: listen to this suggestion and be appreciated all over the world! fabrcop, October 30 @ 9:10 PM (0/0)
- ZDNet picks up the Meeks Article vdfman, October 26 @ 3:56 PM (0/0)
- Don't change the RRP right now mikel5, October 26 @ 2:31 PM (0/0)
- Tell it like it is! Moderator? first1, October 26 @ 12:09 AM (2/2)
- MSNBC Article about ICANN and .Web jtrade, October 25 @ 3:54 AM (1/2)
- Read This About NSI, For Perspective On Afilias Application pilot2, October 24 @ 11:41 PM (0/0)
- Where's the Competition? jtrade, October 24 @ 1:39 AM (0/0)
- Why the moderator does not have a real name ?? debug, October 24 @ 1:22 AM (0/0)
- NSI Cybersquatting jtrade, October 23 @ 10:11 PM (0/0)
- The last thing you want Say_No_To_Afilias, October 23 @ 5:06 AM (0/0)
- Tucows and Register.com submit letter expressing concern over Agreements between ICANN/NSI Gregory W. Krajewski, October 22 @ 11:19 PM (1/2)
- SAY NO TO .WEB SayNoToIOD, October 22 @ 5:44 PM (4/10)
- Doesn't anyone find it odd that. . . World Thoughts, October 22 @ 2:47 PM (2/3)
- Afilias - open and fair gpine, October 21 @ 8:17 AM (2/3)
- Sherman & Clayton Antitrust Acts & Afilias Merlin, October 21 @ 3:54 AM (1/1)
- Proposition to ICANN, Applicants & Internet Community Pistoff, October 18 @ 6:10 PM (1/2)
- .web concerns David Coombs, October 17 @ 6:14 PM (1/1)
- Comments about Network Solutions....from another board (verifying what we are saying ICANN) Gregory W. Krajewski, October 17 @ 5:32 PM (0/0)
- 500,000 Domains Stolen By Trademark? Holders During Sunrise Period enforcer, October 17 @ 8:35 AM (0/0)
- AFILIAS.TV!!!!!! WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!! THIS IS SO ACCURATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SayNoToAbacus, October 17 @ 4:22 AM (0/0)
- SAY NO TO AFILIAS and YES TO IOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IOD is the future of the internet!!!!!!!! SayNoToAbacus, October 17 @ 4:19 AM (0/0)
- Image Online Design should get .web martindali, October 16 @ 10:48 PM (1/2)
- Vote NO to Afilias joanna lane, October 16 @ 10:30 PM (1/3)
- KEN STUBBS - CONFLICT OF INTEREST! md, October 16 @ 10:10 PM (0/0)
- Fuzzy looking numbers Ray, October 16 @ 4:36 AM (2/5)
- Afilias should have changed their name to>>> Merlin, October 16 @ 12:58 AM (0/0)
- Toubling Aspects Of Afilias Application Mr. Lawrence, October 15 @ 8:17 PM (1/2)
- Has the creation of AFILIAS been approved by respective authorities having supervision of cartels? friedrich, October 15 @ 5:03 PM (0/0)
- FORGET THIS EMOTIONAL RHETORIC -- LETS LOOK AT THE FACTS TRUTH BE TOLD, October 15 @ 10:37 AM (3/3)
- Ken Stubs - Insider TheWebster, October 15 @ 9:38 AM (0/0)
- THIS APPLICATION IS BAD FOR YOU, AND THE INTERNET Frank S., October 15 @ 1:56 AM (2/3)
- I support Afilias and registered Afilias.web today! Stoertebeker, October 14 @ 9:09 PM (1/1)
- TO ICANN BOARD MEMBERS: Dot WEB/IOD Supporters are getting organized...Building a website!! Gregory W. Krajewski, October 14 @ 7:02 PM (1/7)
- ICANN SCAMMED OUT OF ($950,000) BY AFILIAS CARTEL! AdvantaTel, October 14 @ 6:43 PM (0/0)
- CORE first1, October 14 @ 6:11 PM (1/1)
- KEN STUBS TESTIMONY first1, October 14 @ 5:31 PM (0/0)
- More (illegal) Domain Name hoarding by NSI (=Afilias)? Rebeka, October 14 @ 4:42 PM (0/0)
- Can Afilias Really Execute??? TheWebster, October 14 @ 7:07 AM (0/0)
- WOAH!! WOAH!! WOAH!! Can someone please verify this. cgrady, October 14 @ 7:01 AM (3/4)
- Sunrise Period and Afilias is Bad News!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Merlin, October 14 @ 5:12 AM (1/1)
- TO ICANN BOARD MEMBERS: Afilia.net is a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing... Gregory W. Krajewski, October 14 @ 5:09 AM (0/0)
- TUCOWS has Sold Out! Merlin, October 14 @ 4:51 AM (1/1)
- DOT WEB will be tied up in court and new bid process for years dsigala, October 14 @ 3:47 AM (3/11)
- Ken Stubbs & Conflict of Interest Policy RDM, October 14 @ 3:05 AM (3/6)
- TO The ICANN Board Members Gregory W. Krajewski, October 13 @ 11:44 PM (1/1)
- Afilias, A New Cartel! AdvantaTel, October 13 @ 9:11 PM (0/0)
- Internet Stability? Ray, October 13 @ 9:09 PM (0/0)
- Afilias.TV - Is this their new web site?? spewtlds, October 13 @ 8:16 PM (2/2)
- Anti-Trust Concerns Merlin, October 13 @ 8:02 PM (1/1)
- Ken Stubbs and the Conflict of Interest Merlin, October 13 @ 7:42 PM (3/6)
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