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Fri, November 3, 2000 at 1:58 PM GMT |
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TLD preregistration SCAM or what |
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Are these people for real. I
quote "Our operating agreement with the registrars dictates that our requests take
precedence to any other orders and will be filled in the order they are received."
from netdomainsolutions.com with a trade name of Regland.com They want $20 non
refundable to get into their system. Their terms and conditions would make it very
easy for them to do nothing when the new TLD's go public and keep their fees. I
could not find them on ICANN's registar index.
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Message Thread:
- General Comments — Moderator, October 7 @ 10:40 PM (445/1407)
- This needs to be investigated further and explained in greater detail — cgrady, November 6 @ 1:14 AM (0/0)
- The "Individual" Constituency is not represented, but I thought they should!! — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 6 @ 12:56 AM (0/0)
- Final Thoughts — World Thoughts, November 6 @ 12:39 AM (0/0)
- Too broad or too norrow — johnD, November 6 @ 12:38 AM (0/0)
- Plead to ICANN — cgrady, November 6 @ 12:20 AM (0/0)
- Compliments to ICANN! — Robert_Jacobson, November 6 @ 12:06 AM (0/0)
- IATA APPLICATION FOR TLD — susansammons, November 5 @ 11:48 PM (1/1)
- http://www.joinfoci.org — jtrade, November 5 @ 11:43 PM (0/0)
- Questions for applicants re registrars and resellers — bfellman, November 5 @ 11:42 PM (0/0)
- Comments on New TLDs -- Motion Picture Association — TDD, November 5 @ 11:06 PM (0/0)
- COMMERCIAL CONNECT: Questionable ties — lapointe, November 5 @ 10:52 PM (0/0)
- ISPCP on new TLDs — sastre, November 5 @ 10:23 PM (1/1)
- Comments on Proposals for New Top Level Domains — Business Constituency, November 5 @ 10:16 PM (2/2)
- .union — sbenedict, November 5 @ 9:09 PM (0/0)
- .music — TLG 200, November 5 @ 6:33 PM (0/0)
- This Forum: Possibly Nothing More Than A Feel-Good Distraction. Just Paranoia? — dcorish, November 5 @ 5:41 PM (0/0)
- NSI DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR NEW GTLDS - READ THE PROOF! — friedrich, November 5 @ 5:17 PM (0/0)
- “Spectral Web, Inc.’s Comments Regarding the Choice of New Top-Level Domains and Registries” — Spectral Web, Inc., November 5 @ 3:34 PM (1/1)
- Final comments — huguesdb, November 5 @ 3:31 PM (0/0)
- Fair Decision — Jens72, November 5 @ 3:21 PM (1/1)
- Comment on process — jweb, November 5 @ 2:42 PM (0/0)
- ICANN: we know you are listening and we are confident in your fairness — fabrcop, November 5 @ 10:32 AM (1/1)
- Pioneer Preference is most fair method — netizen1, November 5 @ 5:47 AM (0/0)
- More ICANN Bribery? — jtrade, November 5 @ 4:02 AM (0/0)
- This is what the law says ... — friedrich, November 5 @ 12:43 AM (2/2)
- "Dirt in The Domain Name Game" — jtrade, November 5 @ 12:21 AM (1/1)
- General opinion — fagzal, November 5 @ 12:07 AM (0/0)
- Mr. Ken Stubbs will officially represent CORE in ICANNs Public Meeting in Los Angeles! — friedrich, November 4 @ 11:16 PM (0/0)
- ICANN's vision of TLDs for a new order of cyber civilization — R.K. Pillai, November 4 @ 9:03 PM (0/0)
- Dissapointing gTLD suggestions... — z00ker, November 4 @ 7:56 PM (0/0)
- NO to IOD — SayNoToIOD, November 4 @ 7:46 PM (6/6)
- You still have over an hour to admit your own self interest. — anthony 2nd, November 5 @ 11:34 PM (0/0)
- You are boring with your false (and anonymous) statements — fabrcop, November 5 @ 9:59 AM (0/0)
- Sir, you have a right to post here, but not to distort the facts... — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 4 @ 11:38 PM (0/0)
- Say YES! to IOD — first1, November 4 @ 11:05 PM (0/0)
- We all? How many Jim Smith's are you? (poor guy...) — Rebeka, November 4 @ 8:45 PM (0/0)
- These allegations are, of course, false — cambler, November 4 @ 8:12 PM (0/0)
- Neustar/Melbourne IT/Afilias ... Larry, Moe, & Curly — dcorish, November 4 @ 2:39 PM (1/1)
- ICANN: Please correct *NEW* errors before nov 5 — Saskia, November 4 @ 1:07 PM (0/0)
- Basic features of the ideal application — Rgaetano, November 4 @ 9:43 AM (0/0)
- Afilias Whistle Blower — west coast, November 4 @ 8:01 AM (1/1)
- ICANN: You mentioned "fairness" and the "consumer" on your website...I would like to comment... — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 4 @ 7:59 AM (1/1)
- Limitation needed — martin@communards.de, November 4 @ 1:43 AM (1/1)
- A Sunrise Period is Wrong and Unfair — Merlin, November 4 @ 1:36 AM (1/1)
- co-op.com — kimc, November 4 @ 12:51 AM (0/0)
- General Policy Statement of Registry Selection — Frank Mount, November 3 @ 9:34 PM (0/0)
- REGLAND >>> " L I A R S " Never mentioned by ICANN on "Pre-registrations" — AdvantaTel, November 3 @ 9:29 PM (0/0)
- .SHOP to Name.Space, .WEB to IOD, .INFO to Afilias, .SITE to Neustar — netizen1, November 3 @ 8:45 PM (0/0)
- American Civil Liberties Union comments on ICANN TLD application process — cchiu, November 3 @ 8:40 PM (1/2)
- NeuStar LNP Help Desk — chagan, November 3 @ 8:19 PM (0/0)
- YES to .YP - YES TO NEW UNIVERSAL, EFFICIENT and EASY TO USE gTLD's. — Juan Pablo Calvo, November 3 @ 8:09 PM (0/0)
- New TLDs — John Lewis, November 3 @ 7:50 PM (0/0)
- Trademarks can be protected WITHOUT a Sunrise Period! (New TLDs are needed SOON) — fabrcop, November 3 @ 7:13 PM (0/0)
- Strong Vote for .i — rgupta, November 3 @ 6:31 PM (0/0)
- Inadequate selection — Tim Brown, November 3 @ 6:15 PM (0/0)
- .web doesn't solve the problem — tomam, November 3 @ 5:53 PM (2/4)
- Thought Provoking — cyber-cynic, November 3 @ 5:12 PM (3/8)
- TLD preregistration SCAM or what — davidnrn, November 3 @ 1:58 PM (1/1)
- Scrap NSI entirely. Their human interface is dead. — davidnrn, November 3 @ 1:44 PM (0/0)
- ICANN: Please correct errors before nov 5 — saskia, November 3 @ 1:04 PM (0/0)
- ICANN Testifying before Congress about many Issues - ON RECORD.... 7/99 — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 3 @ 6:33 AM (0/0)
- This whole procedure needs reviewing — gt515, November 3 @ 1:31 AM (0/0)
- Avoiding Conflicts of Interest - At last!!! — Anthony 2nd, November 3 @ 12:03 AM (1/1)
- Why No TRADEMARK domain???? — Jello, November 2 @ 10:35 PM (4/4)
- PCIA Comments on Applications Received by ICANN for Operating New TLDs — PCIA, November 2 @ 9:19 PM (1/1)
- .fam TLD — beetle, November 2 @ 5:38 PM (0/0)
- CONTRADICTIONS in IPC's comment about IOD/.web application! — fabrcop, November 2 @ 1:17 PM (0/0)
- To C.Ambler, IOD: why $15? — IODskeptic, November 2 @ 9:32 AM (4/11)
- Nov 1 Status Update — VikashPatel, November 2 @ 7:10 AM (0/0)
- Neustar/MelbourneIT is Either Lying or it's Application is Flawed! — jtrade, November 2 @ 6:26 AM (0/0)
- Grant .WEB to IODesign // Grant .INFO to Afilias — worldwide, November 2 @ 6:16 AM (0/0)
- .MAG would be a good TLD for online MAGAZINES — DRrandy, November 2 @ 6:09 AM (0/0)
- Nobody will trust a referee siding with .. — cello, November 2 @ 5:27 AM (0/0)
- CORE application is good for everyone — Ksoussi, November 2 @ 1:05 AM (0/0)
- Desiderata for new TLDs — mc, November 2 @ 12:24 AM (0/0)
- Support "dot co-op" — idi1, November 1 @ 6:26 PM (0/0)
- Numeric domain names — Gervas, November 1 @ 5:01 PM (0/0)
- ICANN is Not in the business for TM protection.....It's all about the technical aspects of the DNS — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 1 @ 4:31 PM (1/1)
- IPC preliminary evaluation of new TLD applications — SJMetalitz, November 1 @ 3:53 PM (5/7)
- GREAT COMPANY — ManyStores, November 1 @ 3:16 PM (0/0)
- support .museum — CAA, November 1 @ 3:13 PM (0/0)
- GREAT COMPANY — ManyStores, November 1 @ 3:07 PM (0/0)
- Moral rights — fabrcop, November 1 @ 1:59 PM (0/0)
- NO to IATA/TLD — jie, November 1 @ 1:57 PM (0/0)
- What's That Foul Smell? — jtrade, November 1 @ 9:41 AM (0/0)
- The perfect choice is: IOD/.web , Afilias/.info , Neustar/.site — fabrcop, November 1 @ 9:04 AM (0/0)
- The internet should be a utility — mayor, November 1 @ 6:14 AM (0/0)
- Who got it right - in absolute numbers — pedro, November 1 @ 4:11 AM (1/1)
- MSNBC poll - who got it right — pedro, November 1 @ 3:58 AM (0/0)
- .Web, MelbourneIT/Neustar,ICANN Director Greg Crew and Conflict of Interest? — jtrade, November 1 @ 2:17 AM (1/1)
- .WEB to IOD and .SHOP to Name.Space — netizen1, October 31 @ 10:42 PM (0/0)
- Better format for this board! — ville, October 31 @ 10:15 PM (0/0)
- .health TLD — LMS, October 31 @ 9:16 PM (0/0)
- Parallel root server with separate database — PHXbird, October 31 @ 9:13 PM (0/0)
- All applications should be returned. — If-I-can-why-can't-ICANN., October 31 @ 8:59 PM (0/0)
- support .co-op domain — mnfc, October 31 @ 2:54 PM (0/0)
- support for .museum — taieve, October 31 @ 8:57 AM (0/0)
- Are we all missing the point? — cyber-cynic, October 31 @ 7:22 AM (4/9)
- Almostly can't wait..... — herrieta, October 31 @ 5:34 AM (0/0)
- support mumber .tel — emily, October 31 @ 4:54 AM (0/0)
- support NUMBER.tel — philiptsai, October 31 @ 4:43 AM (0/0)
- New TLDs---->.tel is execellent! — philiptsai, October 31 @ 4:23 AM (0/0)
- Cheapest Wins — YellowMello, October 31 @ 3:42 AM (1/1)
- Another Law suit? — cyber-cynic, October 31 @ 12:05 AM (2/15)
- ICANN: listen to this suggestion and be appreciated all over the world — fabrcop, October 30 @ 9:16 PM (0/0)
- Support .health domain — eohtlg, October 30 @ 7:09 PM (0/0)
- MAIN CONCERN: commercialization and monopolization — gilles, October 30 @ 5:53 PM (0/0)
- Is ICANN pulling a fast one? — Anthony 2nd, October 30 @ 11:19 AM (0/0)
- after much research — dandb, October 30 @ 4:36 AM (1/1)
- No new generic unrestricted TLDs PLEASE — huguesdb, October 29 @ 10:41 PM (3/23)
- Why not ONE dot ALT TLD? — itsjpr, October 29 @ 7:25 PM (1/1)
- What do you think? — VikashPatel, October 29 @ 3:35 PM (0/0)
- Top Domain Name Holders — Merlin, October 29 @ 6:34 AM (1/1)
- Messages From The Past (Just A Stroll Down Archive Lane) — Mario, October 29 @ 6:22 AM (0/0)
- Health as a TLD — pschloeffel, October 29 @ 2:51 AM (1/1)
- A "fresh" .web database is the only fair approach. — CyberCitizen, October 28 @ 11:36 PM (5/5)
- Image Online Design must run .web — johnnie, October 28 @ 6:08 PM (0/0)
- IATA — barmar, October 28 @ 4:10 PM (0/0)
- we support the trade union proposal — rousselot, October 28 @ 11:38 AM (0/0)
- Multilingual TLD (¤¤¤å.com) — dannyd@post.com, October 28 @ 8:43 AM (1/1)
- .co-op — andrewmoore, October 28 @ 4:53 AM (0/0)
- One thing for sure....Dot Com needs competition......Dot Web is the answer — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 28 @ 4:31 AM (0/0)
- Please read for yourself why there is so much Anti-Afilias, Neustar sentiment on this board — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 28 @ 4:08 AM (1/1)
- level of conversation — Ville, October 27 @ 8:29 PM (0/0)
- "Beware the ICANN Board Squatter" — jtrade, October 27 @ 7:28 PM (0/0)
- .co-op TLD support — Arnold Oliver, October 27 @ 5:47 PM (2/2)
- Oppose IATA as travel domain provider — DBToursInt, October 27 @ 5:45 PM (1/1)
- .co-op support — Deborah, October 27 @ 5:17 PM (0/0)
- Dot Museum As Top Level Domain Name — Oregon Heritage Commission, October 27 @ 4:19 PM (0/0)
- If We Post About Stubbs, Do We Post Under Afilias? Neustar? Core? Others? — pilot2, October 27 @ 1:19 PM (0/0)
- CAE's support of IATA proposal to sponsor a ".travel" TLD — isaacs, October 27 @ 11:07 AM (0/0)
- .HEALTH and WHO — chriz, October 27 @ 10:54 AM (0/0)
- .kids tld - general observations — john.carr, October 27 @ 9:09 AM (2/2)
- Network Solutions and Great Domains....Register.com and Afternic.com...hmmm — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 27 @ 2:08 AM (1/1)
- Going Offline — cambler, October 27 @ 2:03 AM (1/1)
- Supporting new domain name ".co-op" — San Luis Valley R.E.C., October 26 @ 10:53 PM (0/0)
- *****DIRECT QUESTIONS TO KEN STUBBS***** — Monty, October 26 @ 10:48 PM (0/0)
- Afilias get .web and IOD supporters get their (pre)-Registrations — Rebeka, October 26 @ 10:20 PM (1/2)
- IATA support — Haymaker, October 26 @ 9:11 PM (0/0)
- ICANN: please post other documents about IOD/.web also (in the correspondence) — fabrcop, October 26 @ 6:33 PM (0/0)
- Msnbc-Meeks-Icann — Webster, October 26 @ 5:58 PM (4/17)
- Ken Stubbs (Daily News-Nov. 07/99) — shawn, October 26 @ 5:44 PM (2/3)
- ZDNet Highlights The MSNBC Article! The Link Is In This Post. — pilot2, October 26 @ 4:33 PM (0/0)
- IATA .travel TLD Application — ADP, October 26 @ 2:47 PM (0/0)
- The Real Numbers (The Commentary Process Is being PEVERTED) — Global View, October 26 @ 1:15 PM (3/4)
- TO ICANN board members, staff, and applicants.........WHERE ARE YOU???? — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 26 @ 4:27 AM (1/1)
- .SEX, .XXX, .KIDS TLDs Provide a Freedom of Choice - reply to Ron 1000 — lrfarny, October 26 @ 2:42 AM (1/2)
- request for our trademark - answer from NSI - should we now go to whois GD — ted, October 26 @ 1:26 AM (0/0)
- Monopoly gets bigger! — first1, October 26 @ 12:50 AM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs condems NSI but Afilias makes the same mistakes! — anthony, October 25 @ 11:47 PM (0/0)
- It occurs to me. — World Thoughts, October 25 @ 11:38 PM (0/0)
- NSI/Verisign Buys GreatDomains.com — jtrade, October 25 @ 11:33 PM (1/1)
- ICANN IS NOT DEMOCRATIC - President Ether Dyson — ted, October 25 @ 11:08 PM (0/0)
- domain name ".co-op" — tech, October 25 @ 9:17 PM (1/1)
- How about pioneer preference? — Jeffrey, October 25 @ 8:26 PM (0/0)
- MODERATOR! -- Display messages from: 1 day ago etc. -- doesn't work. — Rebeka, October 25 @ 6:17 PM (1/2)
- ICANN = NSI? where's the competition? — sboisvert, October 25 @ 5:47 PM (0/0)
- undue influence — arturo, October 25 @ 5:09 PM (0/0)
- New Domain Name ".co-op" — Tricounty, October 25 @ 4:54 PM (0/0)
- To C.Ambler, IOD: QUESTION — IODskeptic, October 25 @ 1:15 PM (0/0)
- Dump the dots. — jackb_guppy, October 25 @ 1:10 PM (1/1)
- why .dip ? — dargento, October 25 @ 10:52 AM (0/0)
- New Registration of eTLD to compliment gTLD and ccTLD available — boris7, October 25 @ 8:13 AM (0/0)
- ".tel" — Nicole, October 25 @ 5:30 AM (2/3)
- MSNBC Article about ICANN and .Web — jtrade, October 25 @ 3:41 AM (2/2)
- Comments Period Must be Extended Even Longer! — jtrade, October 25 @ 3:32 AM (1/2)
- Voting on New Tld Applications — jtrade, October 24 @ 8:52 PM (0/0)
- Following the rules — TheWatcher, October 24 @ 7:15 PM (1/2)
- As I Promised-Question For Chris Ambler — CrossFire, October 24 @ 4:57 PM (1/4)
- Choosing wisely — concerned, October 24 @ 4:11 PM (0/0)
- MODERATOR Please HELP!!!!! Forum open for comments until Sunday, 5 November 2000. — Rebeka, October 24 @ 3:59 PM (1/1)
- .co-op — Marlu Lake, October 24 @ 3:24 PM (1/1)
- proposal for handling trademark and conflicting .web registrations — pvos, October 24 @ 2:43 PM (2/2)
- Followup Message For Pilot — CrossFire, October 24 @ 8:09 AM (2/7)
- DNSO - Noncommerical Constituency Proposal....Any Comments on their ideas — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 24 @ 5:01 AM (2/3)
- inane multiple posting — dansokol, October 24 @ 4:54 AM (0/0)
- The world is watching....A spirit of "openness" and cooperation needs to exist...Success will result — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 24 @ 4:23 AM (0/0)
- Where is the Competition? — jtrade, October 24 @ 1:58 AM (1/2)
- Where's the Competition? — jtrade, October 24 @ 1:37 AM (0/0)
- New proof of concept?? -- ICM and Blueberry hill — brahim_m, October 24 @ 12:22 AM (0/0)
- IOD and Ken Stubbs — Merlin, October 24 @ 12:16 AM (1/1)
- .SHARE victim of a $50,000 application fee — domainSHARE.com, October 23 @ 10:49 PM (0/0)
- ICANN - please correct the dead link — friedrich, October 23 @ 10:25 PM (1/1)
- NSI Cybersquatting — jtrade, October 23 @ 10:14 PM (0/0)
- .WS Claims .WEB Is Unfair. Read .WS E-Mail Exchange With ICANN — pilot2, October 23 @ 9:56 PM (2/5)
- Apoyamos la creación de dominio para Cooperativas — ronaldag, October 23 @ 9:37 PM (0/0)
- Support for .DIR TLD — cstone, October 23 @ 8:24 PM (0/0)
- .co-op — shanel, October 23 @ 6:10 PM (2/3)
- Article Touching On Lawsuit Involving NSI And Anti-Trust Matters — CrossFire, October 23 @ 6:00 PM (0/0)
- A Solicitation For Readers & Feedback — CrossFire, October 23 @ 5:43 PM (3/6)
- The truth about .web (short version) — fabrcop, October 23 @ 3:28 PM (0/0)
- The truth about .web (long version) — fabrcop, October 23 @ 3:23 PM (0/0)
- coop suffix (TLD) name — mikeb, October 23 @ 1:03 PM (1/3)
- .co-op TLD — mcremc, October 23 @ 1:02 PM (0/0)
- $2,500,000 Offer to ICANN — julie, October 23 @ 7:36 AM (1/2)
- "General Comments" thread by clicking here — ALLDNS, October 22 @ 11:45 PM (0/0)
- MODERATOR-PLEASE MANAGE THE BULLETIN BOARD MORE EFFECTIVELY. PUT MOST ACTIVE SECTIONS AT TOP!!! — Facilitator, October 22 @ 7:41 PM (1/3)
- A note about wiredz... — marshm, October 22 @ 4:19 PM (2/2)
- The Public HATES Network Solutions — Merlin, October 22 @ 4:49 AM (1/3)
- New Afilias Site — global view, October 21 @ 11:34 PM (6/12)
- trademarks and preregistration - through IOD or others — ted, October 21 @ 8:58 PM (0/0)
- Remember Citizens Band Radio - CB Radio — ALLDNS, October 21 @ 6:34 PM (2/5)
- IOD is not fit to operate Registry — SayNoToIOD, October 21 @ 5:40 PM (7/7)
- Drop .web !!! Be creative !!! — Say_No_To_Afilias, October 21 @ 5:09 PM (0/0)
- IOD Registrations wiped out - they were only for showing support. — Al Gore, October 21 @ 1:33 PM (3/9)
- What TLD's Should I be looking to register? — gonzo1977, October 21 @ 9:37 AM (1/1)
- INFORMATION REGARDING THE FOCI PETITION — TheScribe, October 21 @ 8:18 AM (8/9)
- US Centric TLD - again! — gpine, October 21 @ 8:14 AM (3/8)
- ICANN & IOD — Merlin, October 21 @ 7:00 AM (2/7)
- Just say NO to self proclaimed Registries — SayNoToIOD, October 21 @ 5:47 AM (8/13)
- Sherman & Clayton Antitrust Acts & Afilias — Merlin, October 21 @ 3:53 AM (1/1)
- About TLDs intended for Childrens applications (as .KIDS): Comments and Recommendations on Proposals — vany_martinez, October 21 @ 1:21 AM (1/1)
- My e-mail to Senator Boxer - for public review. — friedrich, October 21 @ 12:31 AM (1/4)
- Let's Talk About NeuStar — Eliahu, October 20 @ 10:07 PM (2/11)
- Draft-Any Comments? Also, Need Catchy Title For Subject. — Facilitator, October 20 @ 10:03 PM (4/15)
- JVTeam not only try to take .web from IOD they avoided paying ICANN its $50,000 — Anthony, October 20 @ 10:03 PM (1/2)
- Wanted: Ballot Indicating All Names Of Those Opposed To Afilias & Neustar — Facilitator, October 20 @ 9:57 PM (2/3)
- What Date and Time Does This Board Close? — Infinity, October 20 @ 9:51 PM (2/3)
- Wanted: Letter That Sums Events To Send To Congress & Agencies — Facilitator, October 20 @ 9:50 PM (2/10)
- Neustar/MelbourneIT and .Web — Merlin, October 20 @ 9:50 PM (0/0)
- Some Names Council History — jtrade, October 20 @ 9:25 PM (0/0)
- Impeach Stubbs — Smart, October 20 @ 9:11 PM (0/0)
- senator@boxer.senate.gov = Barbara Boxer's E-Mail Address — pilot, October 20 @ 8:59 PM (0/0)
- Vote 'No Confidence' in Ken Stubbs - please resign due to conflict of interest — JaseK, October 20 @ 8:39 PM (0/0)
- Who are Local Congress People? — Smart, October 20 @ 7:57 PM (2/3)
- Complain to California Attorney General — Smart, October 20 @ 7:39 PM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs is Laughing at YOU>>>>>> — whatsupdoc, October 20 @ 7:06 PM (2/5)
- Congress — Smart, October 20 @ 6:23 PM (1/3)
- .WEB Registry — Ryan4, October 20 @ 6:15 PM (1/1)
- Why Didn't Afilias Include .Shop And Others On Their Application? — Eliahu, October 20 @ 5:44 PM (0/0)
- Domain Names With Built-In Brand Equity Will Be Taken Out Of Use Under Afilias Plan! — Facilitator, October 20 @ 4:55 PM (0/0)
- New Argument For Opposing Afilias Plan!!! — Facilitator, October 20 @ 4:44 PM (0/0)
- Useless — julie, October 20 @ 4:13 PM (0/0)
- Lack Of Afilias Representation In This Forum — pilot, October 20 @ 4:05 PM (2/2)
- wrong-headed methodology — sourceview, October 20 @ 4:01 PM (0/0)
- dispute between CNN and cnnews.com — marry2000, October 20 @ 2:57 PM (0/0)
- ICANN - Opportunity to require enforcement of policy — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 12:56 AM (0/0)
- AFILIAS - Is it unethical . . . ? — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 11:57 AM (1/1)
- CORE apparently unwilling to properly manage US CORE Members — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 10:54 AM (1/18)
- Complaints Regarding CASDNS Business Practices Requested — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 9:00 AM (0/0)
- Complaints Regarding CORE & ASS Business Practices Requested — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 8:48 AM (0/0)
- Afilias:Competition and Ken Stubbs — Merlin, October 20 @ 8:26 AM (1/7)
- Affilias vs. Afilias — enforcer, October 20 @ 8:23 AM (3/3)
- Top level Domain names - — ravicabral, October 20 @ 8:08 AM (1/1)
- Precedent:::: InterNic Permitted **PRE** registrations in 1993 — ian-francis-xavier, October 20 @ 6:23 AM (0/0)
- General Observations of the Past Few Days — Facilitator, October 20 @ 5:50 AM (0/0)
- September Names Council Meeting! — jtrade, October 20 @ 4:53 AM (0/0)
- How Generic are these proposals - internationalisation? — internat?, October 20 @ 4:10 AM (0/0)
- Ethics, competition, pioneer rights — Hather, October 20 @ 3:45 AM (1/1)
- Network Solutions and Bad Security — jtrade, October 20 @ 1:38 AM (0/0)
- Names Council Meeting — jtrade, October 20 @ 1:10 AM (2/4)
- more trademark problems in surprising places — Judith Oppenheimer, October 20 @ 12:53 AM (0/0)
- ICANN scammed out of $950,000 I agree — Merlin, October 20 @ 12:28 AM (0/0)
- Think Afilias is bad, check out a future Communist Government owned registry — emc2, October 19 @ 10:28 PM (2/3)
- THE TRUTH: Some trademarks will become invalid. — friedrich, October 19 @ 9:33 PM (0/0)
- More Conflict of Interest? — jtrade, October 19 @ 8:32 PM (1/1)
- Afilias/NSI - a Cybersquatter in bad faith? — Rebeka, October 19 @ 7:22 PM (3/3)
- .traveln — traveln, October 19 @ 7:08 PM (2/3)
- Pre-registrations were allowed in 1993 for .com — fabrcop, October 19 @ 4:28 PM (3/6)
- Unhappy Customers — Merlin, October 19 @ 8:38 AM (0/0)
- Don't be suckered in by those Afilias supporters. What they say is absurd. Instead, support IOD... — USC, October 19 @ 8:37 AM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs,to close for comfort! — Merlin, October 19 @ 8:30 AM (0/0)
- Don't be too hasty - use established registrars — vicspanner, October 19 @ 7:42 AM (1/5)
- GO TO WWW.JOINFOCI.ORG........ SUPPORT IMAGE ONLINE DESIGN'S .WEB.......AFILIAS SHMAFILIAS!!!!!!! — USC, October 19 @ 7:14 AM (0/0)
- The UDRP will make all discussion concerning initial domain registration useless... — zzmars, October 19 @ 6:21 AM (0/0)
- Link to Slide Presentations on NSI's Future Plans — RDM, October 19 @ 6:12 AM (1/1)
- IOD Exposed #6 (sex.web) — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 5:14 AM (10/13)
- I was impressed because IOD did NOT reserve several domains — fabrcop, October 19 @ 4:32 PM (0/0)
- Sir, there is no fire here. — For The People, October 19 @ 10:11 AM (1/2)
- cybersquating & speculating is NOT the issue //it's control of INFO by AOL — ian-francis-xavier, October 19 @ 7:05 AM (0/0)
- Thanks "Whistle Blower" You managed to get us off topic...which i suspect you wanted... — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 19 @ 6:03 AM (0/0)
- Conflict of Interest Defined — jtrade, October 19 @ 6:02 AM (0/0)
- Conspiracy? Try Blatant abuse — jranes2, October 19 @ 5:55 AM (0/0)
- You Are Unjustly Comparing "Conflict Of Interest" With "Insider Trading" — Eliahu, October 19 @ 5:52 AM (0/0)
- Thanks for the compliment! You closet posters only help IOD's postion... — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 19 @ 5:41 AM (0/0)
- Scared — jtrade, October 19 @ 5:35 AM (0/0)
- Yup... — cambler, October 19 @ 5:18 AM (1/1)
- IOD Exposed #5 (the witnesses speak) — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 4:48 AM (2/3)
- IOD Exposed #4 (what the court had to say) — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 4:37 AM (2/2)
- IOD Exposed #3 — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 4:09 AM (2/2)
- IOD Exposed #2 — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 4:03 AM (3/4)
- IOD Exposed #1 — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 3:44 AM (5/5)
- Only Chartered TLDs — dmhwalker, October 19 @ 3:03 AM (1/1)
- Network Solutions and Restraint of Trade — jtrade, October 19 @ 12:43 AM (0/0)
- NSI Experienced High Level of Uncollectible Receivables - Latest 10-K — RDM, October 19 @ 12:36 AM (1/4)
- ICANN'T TOLERATE CORRUPTION — jranes2, October 19 @ 12:35 AM (0/0)
- Why doesn't everyone support IOD? — Doc again, October 18 @ 11:41 PM (0/0)
- Interesting Article — RDM, October 18 @ 11:35 PM (2/3)
- Did Ken Stubbs Have Access To IOD's Application Before Afillias Submitted? — Mr. Lawrence1, October 18 @ 11:32 PM (3/13)
- I want a .LOVE not a .WAR ! — OrlandoMM, October 18 @ 10:43 PM (0/0)
- .kids domain — prshaw, October 18 @ 10:15 PM (0/0)
- How does ICANN Vote? — Merlin , October 18 @ 9:47 PM (3/3)
- My Internet, your Internet, our Internet! — friedrich, October 18 @ 9:07 PM (0/0)
- ICANN Will Pick Afilias? — Eliahu, October 18 @ 8:53 PM (3/3)
- Oversight — RDM, October 18 @ 8:17 PM (1/2)
- ICANN is the cause of the indignation, NOT IOD supporters — vdfman, October 18 @ 7:56 PM (0/0)
- For ICANN to award .web to Afilias would be a massive anti-trust issue. — Hudgens, October 18 @ 7:43 PM (1/1)
- Just got "bulk-mailed" by NSI — PHXbird, October 18 @ 7:18 PM (0/0)
- After thorough research of applications, I agree with IOD... — zzmars, October 18 @ 6:50 PM (0/0)
- IOD supporters make the news! — ludacris, October 18 @ 5:59 PM (0/0)
- ¼¼°è °¢±¹ ¾ð¾î·Î Æ÷·³ÀÌ °³¼³µÇ¾î¾ß Çϸç, ¼¼°è ¸ðµç »ç¶÷ÀÇ Àǻ簡 ÀÚÀ¯·Ó°Ô Ç¥½ÃµÇ¾î¾ß ÇÑ´Ù. — JP Kim, October 18 @ 5:50 PM (0/0)
- Proposition to ICANN, Applicants & Internet Community — Pistoff, October 18 @ 5:33 PM (0/0)
- Network Solutions Scandal — Merlin, October 18 @ 4:46 PM (0/0)
- Real People Don't Care — philberent, October 18 @ 4:05 PM (5/9)
- Timing of Decision Making Process — Pistoff, October 18 @ 3:46 PM (1/1)
- name-space knows how to do it — asw, October 18 @ 12:32 AM (1/1)
- The importance of Meaning and Generality — Filip, October 18 @ 12:24 AM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs has links to 15 TLDs!! — doc again, October 18 @ 11:53 AM (1/1)
- IOD = excellent customer service — treherne, October 18 @ 9:30 AM (1/1)
- Neustar and Afilias Bid to Steal .Web — jtrade, October 18 @ 1:47 AM (2/2)
- David vs Goliath — CBK, October 18 @ 1:28 AM (0/0)
- Dot..tv registration is highly questionable. — zeo, October 17 @ 11:13 PM (2/2)
- No monopolies please — RKnight, October 17 @ 9:59 PM (1/6)
- Why all the focus on ONE TLD? — lapointe, October 17 @ 8:37 PM (1/15)
- Neustar Attempting to BRIBE ICANN? — jtrade, October 17 @ 8:12 PM (0/0)
- Throwing out the .kid with the .xxx bathwater. — markusbaccus, October 17 @ 8:09 PM (1/3)
- World Thoughts, A Must Read — jtrade, October 17 @ 7:42 PM (4/34)
- Ken Stubbs & Conflict Of Interest Policy — RDM, October 17 @ 6:16 PM (0/0)
- Interesting Article — RDM, October 17 @ 5:46 PM (1/4)
- Want to see another monopoly? — ForgetTheHype, October 17 @ 5:41 PM (5/48)
- Any Connection With Afilias? (i.e. Affiliate Program) — Mario, October 17 @ 5:37 PM (0/0)
- IOD Court Ruling - FACTS — ForgetTheHype, October 17 @ 5:26 PM (1/1)
- IOD deserves .WEB, stop the monopoly — IraChandler, October 17 @ 4:46 PM (1/1)
- Support for Image Online Design — URLMerchant, October 17 @ 4:12 PM (1/2)
- Pre-Registration, even in .WEB, is premature — zzmars, October 17 @ 4:06 PM (3/3)
- This process is extremely complicated especially if you don't speak English!! — Neila, October 17 @ 3:27 PM (1/1)
- We Need Help! — ChrisT, October 17 @ 2:50 PM (0/0)
- IOD should be the owner of .WEB Addresses — Rhoades, October 17 @ 2:45 PM (0/0)
- Summary — fabrcop, October 17 @ 1:34 PM (0/0)
- IO Design is clearly the owner of .web — chichit, October 17 @ 1:31 PM (1/1)
- It's all been said — vinny, October 17 @ 12:48 AM (1/1)
- ICANN, WHY WON'T YOU COMMENT ON THE KEN STUBBS ISSUE? — anthony, October 17 @ 11:32 AM (1/1)
- IOD .WEB — Michael Fox, October 17 @ 9:22 AM (1/1)
- Ethical Suicide — Merlin, October 17 @ 9:16 AM (1/1)
- no .WEB at all — Makla, October 17 @ 8:52 AM (2/3)
- The Tangled .WEB They Weave.... — jtrade, October 17 @ 7:28 AM (1/1)
- Register .WEB — Andy, October 17 @ 7:17 AM (1/1)
- About any proposed gTLD with strings and acronyms that implies geographical regions and .GEO — vany_martinez, October 17 @ 7:06 AM (0/0)
- Monopolies MUST be stopped — C.Bell, October 17 @ 7:02 AM (1/1)
- My history with NSI.. ** Please write YOURS ****** — rantawi, October 17 @ 6:51 AM (0/0)
- About .KIDS, .WOMEN, .XXX and .SEX — vany_martinez, October 17 @ 6:37 AM (1/2)
- Neustar Attempting to BRIBE ICANN for .WEB? — jtrade, October 17 @ 6:29 AM (0/0)
- Posting of Applications & Legal bills (applicant for .web # 3) — BELLC, October 17 @ 6:27 AM (0/0)
- Messages Commenting on gTLDs were Censored — keith246, October 17 @ 4:29 AM (0/0)
- Most People not know what mean .pro .nom .biz .dir ... — JP Kim, October 17 @ 4:21 AM (0/0)
- Parody gTLDs must be restricted to be permitted by the courts — keith246, October 17 @ 4:07 AM (0/0)
- Concrete Name is more good for ASIA and Africa, East Europe, Latin America people. — JP Kim, October 17 @ 3:58 AM (1/1)
- The issue isn't which 3 letters follow the last dot — keith246, October 17 @ 3:54 AM (0/0)
- Unrestricted gTLDs will waste the resource and solve nothing — keith246, October 17 @ 3:42 AM (1/8)
- WEB TLD's — swallace, October 17 @ 3:37 AM (2/3)
- BE FAIR — billlevy, October 17 @ 2:17 AM (0/0)
- Explanation please... — huguesdb, October 17 @ 12:55 AM (2/6)
- IOD .Web supporters and those for Competition — jtrade, October 17 @ 12:19 AM (2/2)
- .WEB TLD — vd, October 17 @ 12:15 AM (3/3)
- web registry — tennis, October 16 @ 9:51 PM (0/0)
- Support for Image Online Design and the .web TLD — Hudgens, October 16 @ 9:47 PM (4/6)
- We all want .web, can Afilias and IOD run it together? — Stoertebeker, October 16 @ 8:06 PM (1/1)
- Afilias.tv — Merlin, October 16 @ 7:09 PM (0/0)
- Jon Postel's words — Reidar, October 16 @ 6:24 PM (2/2)
- Ken Stubbs - VP & Director of iDomain, Inc. (Another Applicant) — RDM, October 16 @ 6:18 PM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs/Sunrise Period — Merlin, October 16 @ 6:11 PM (0/0)
- TLD applications .kids — algajola24, October 16 @ 5:44 PM (0/0)
- Read the applications: IODesign is the best choice for .web — fabrcop, October 16 @ 5:36 PM (0/0)
- Vote to extend discussion forum — emc2, October 16 @ 5:17 PM (1/1)
- Now you can pre-register for the 7 new TLD's .firm, .shop, .arts, .rec, .info, .nom and .web free! — Rebeka, October 16 @ 4:56 PM (2/8)
- Password Revoked Second Time — TheWebster2, October 16 @ 4:10 PM (5/10)
- There are other applications to consider — lapointe, October 16 @ 3:19 PM (0/0)
- No advantage for IOD for their bad business pratice — KMalorny, October 16 @ 2:52 PM (2/5)
- Questions for C.Ambler (IOD) — IODskeptic, October 16 @ 10:19 AM (1/5)
- Ken Stubbs - how many apps are you involved with? — jandl, October 16 @ 8:46 AM (1/1)
- ICANN: I am waiting for answers from the respective APPLICANTS in this FORUM! — friedrich, October 16 @ 8:12 AM (3/4)
- Cookie Web-bugs use explodes with additional generic TLDs — davebr, October 16 @ 8:12 AM (0/0)
- Moderator, where are you? — pedro, October 16 @ 5:46 AM (3/3)
- Reply to Hold on a second... — marshm, — emc2, October 16 @ 5:08 AM (0/0)
- Delay Selection of New GTLDs Until New Board Members Added — enforcer, October 16 @ 4:20 AM (1/1)
- Name-Space — fred, October 16 @ 3:54 AM (1/2)
- Are we missing the point here? — marshm, October 16 @ 3:35 AM (3/3)
- How can Stubbs be removed from ICANN? — mmtb1111, October 16 @ 2:42 AM (1/1)
- Want accept all TLDs, .art .trade .market .music ... — kim, October 16 @ 1:50 AM (3/5)
- Just LOOK at this place! (3 main issues) — anthony, October 16 @ 1:32 AM (0/0)
- How can we comment on un-posted TLD applications ?? & trademarks issue — emc2, October 16 @ 12:05 AM (2/3)
- Is .web not an 'alternate root system'? — huguesdb, October 16 @ 12:03 AM (2/6)
- Honoring Existing Contracts — Mr. Lawrence, October 15 @ 11:45 PM (0/0)
- We are so caught up, we are forgetting one thing. — For The People, October 15 @ 11:38 PM (1/2)
- Go IOD ! — treherne, October 15 @ 11:19 PM (0/0)
- Password Revoked — TheWebster, October 15 @ 10:28 PM (1/1)
- Project Trojan Horse — TheWebster1, October 15 @ 10:24 PM (1/1)
- _ Ken Stubbs Should Step Down From ICANN or Afilias. — internet78, October 15 @ 8:21 PM (0/0)
- If Afilias has so much power, why do they not flood this message board with supporters? — Stoertebeker, October 15 @ 8:20 PM (2/6)
- If ICANN decides that Name.Space has the best application - do they get ALL their new TLD names? — Rebeka, October 15 @ 7:34 PM (2/6)
- An Open Letter to IOD Supporters — cambler, October 15 @ 7:31 PM (4/7)
- A 60 day sunrise period! — first1, October 15 @ 7:09 PM (0/0)
- Time frame for new TLDs — kularski, October 15 @ 6:29 PM (0/0)
- Network Solutions SPOOKY Past — Merlin, October 15 @ 6:26 PM (1/1)
- I am horrified by a sunrise period for the Afilias Cartel!!! — Rebeka, October 15 @ 5:52 PM (3/13)
- Afilias limits regestration to 10 years max!! — Anthony, October 15 @ 5:35 PM (1/1)
- TO ALL POSTERS: - Please list your name and Where you are from...ALSO more on our Grassroot Efforts — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 15 @ 5:31 PM (0/0)
- Afilias - 100% conflict of interest — pedro, October 15 @ 5:22 PM (0/0)
- Has the creation of AFILIAS been approved by respective authorities having supervision of cartels? — friedrich, October 15 @ 5:02 PM (1/1)
- A matter of Public Trust — mhubbard, October 15 @ 4:51 PM (0/0)
- IOD meets the criteria for stability, Affilias does not. — doc, October 15 @ 2:23 PM (1/28)
- The Comment Process to-date - An analysis — TRUTH BE TOLD, October 15 @ 11:42 AM (2/2)
- same opinions — PSH, October 15 @ 9:33 AM (1/4)
- Ken Stubs - Insider — TheWebster, October 15 @ 9:29 AM (0/0)
- ICANN - how do you grant equal chances for all, to register new TLD's on day 1? — Rebeka, October 15 @ 8:59 AM (3/17)
- It's the same feeling. — LGW, October 15 @ 8:54 AM (2/7)
- Can of worms — pedro, October 15 @ 8:29 AM (1/2)
- I am confident in ICANN's fairness — fabrcop, October 15 @ 7:21 AM (2/11)
- Register.com (=Afilias) is unable to handle new TLD's — Rebeka, October 15 @ 6:32 AM (2/2)
- PROTEST — pedro, October 15 @ 5:44 AM (2/9)
- Impropriety Not Likely — jranes, October 15 @ 2:57 AM (2/2)
- TO THE MODERATOR: Can discussions be broken out by TLDs? — Robert_Jacobson, October 15 @ 2:49 AM (1/1)
- DO NOT ADD .XXX or .SEX CHOOSE MORE WISELY — Frank S., October 15 @ 2:34 AM (1/1)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -ATTENTION: ICANN — icann_, October 15 @ 2:20 AM (1/3)
- Ken Stubbs - CPA — TheWebster, October 15 @ 1:37 AM (0/0)
- KEN STUBBS - SHAME ON YOU — Frank S., October 15 @ 1:22 AM (0/0)
- Praise to IOD — q, October 15 @ 1:13 AM (0/0)
- Keep NSI OUT! — kodo, October 15 @ 1:10 AM (0/0)
- A Recommendation to Posters, A Call to ICANN — For The People, October 15 @ 1:01 AM (0/0)
- SPECULATION — friedrich, October 15 @ 12:19 AM (1/2)
- a comment on the .web tld — economist, October 14 @ 11:57 PM (1/1)
- This board is an embarassment — BrianC, October 14 @ 11:51 PM (5/11)
- Quotes from the Afilias fact sheet. — hoffy, October 14 @ 10:58 PM (1/1)
- TO ICANN: — Merlin, October 14 @ 10:48 PM (1/1)
- ICANN in an Attempt to Censor our Posts? — Merlin, October 14 @ 10:31 PM (1/1)
- SMOKE & MIRRORS — TRUTH BE TOLD, October 14 @ 9:23 PM (3/3)
- Ken Stubbs - Caught in the act? — joshwa, October 14 @ 9:13 PM (0/0)
- I support Afilias and registered Afilias.web today! — Stoertebeker, October 14 @ 9:05 PM (2/2)
- NSI and Register.com in Bed Together — Merlin, October 14 @ 9:03 PM (1/1)
- Message from Saudi Arabia - TRUTH about NSI and IOD — rantawi, October 14 @ 8:14 PM (0/0)
- .Web — phelix00, October 14 @ 8:08 PM (1/1)
- KEN STUBBS - WHO IS HE ? (I THINK WE ALL KNOW) — lew, October 14 @ 7:21 PM (0/0)
- TO THE ICANN BOARD MEMBERS: Dot Web/IOD /Supporters are getting ORGANIZED..Building a Website! — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 14 @ 6:52 PM (6/9)
- How can one comment when the apps are not posted? — jandl, October 14 @ 6:28 PM (1/2)
- Http://www.Afilias.tv — Merlin, October 14 @ 6:12 PM (0/0)
- Fragmenting the net — jandl, October 14 @ 5:57 PM (0/0)
- NO IMAGE ONLINE AS A .WEB contract — jtuttle, October 14 @ 5:48 PM (6/8)
- URGENT: Please watch this video of Ken Stubbs proving his abusive self-interest — Infinity, October 14 @ 5:43 PM (2/4)
- .SEX, .XXX, .KIDS TLDs Restrict Freedom of Speech — ron10000, October 14 @ 5:10 PM (8/8)
- Opportunity for WWW to set a global standard — iceberg, October 31 @ 3:32 PM (0/0)
- IT'S ABOUT OUR KIDS ! ! ! — AdvantaTel, October 18 @ 12:41 AM (0/0)
- Quit hair-splitting. That's not what these domains are for. — lrfarny, October 17 @ 3:32 AM (0/0)
- Red-Light & Green Space TLD (fact v. fiction) — mpalage, October 17 @ 2:32 AM (0/0)
- .XXX, .SEX, ect — kularski, October 14 @ 10:21 PM (0/0)
- .sex and .xxx domains — sairanx, October 14 @ 10:00 PM (0/0)
- "Restrictive" TLDs — PHXbird, October 14 @ 8:53 PM (0/0)
- What??!! — americeo, October 14 @ 5:27 PM (0/0)
- IMAGE ONLINE IS DESERVING OF .WEB contract — chicagoan, October 14 @ 5:07 PM (2/5)
- IOD the .web pioneer — first1, October 14 @ 5:06 PM (2/6)
- Application by Image Online Design — sduncan, October 14 @ 5:04 PM (3/7)
- Permission granted! Permission NEVER revoked! — larreeee, October 14 @ 5:01 PM (1/4)
- Why is this even happening... — bags, October 14 @ 4:56 PM (2/2)
- Separation of Registry and Registrar Functions — RobS, October 14 @ 4:56 PM (1/1)
- IOD has acted in Good Faith — Robert Garner, October 14 @ 4:17 PM (1/1)
- Another Monopol ? — Killah, October 14 @ 3:55 PM (0/0)
- ICANN SCAMMED OUT OF ( $950,000 ) BY AFILIAS CARTEL! — AdvantaTel, October 14 @ 3:53 PM (2/12)
- Vote for .Web / Vote for IOD — anthony, October 14 @ 3:25 PM (2/3)
- .WEB — MDS, October 14 @ 2:33 PM (2/7)
- Have you ever dealt with NSI? — mpayette, October 14 @ 2:23 PM (0/0)
- A general question to ICANN — cgrady, October 14 @ 7:43 AM (2/6)
- Ken Stubbs & Conflicts of Interest Policy — RDM, October 14 @ 5:10 AM (2/3)
- EOI #22...I'm throwing my support to the IOD's .web registry — USC, October 14 @ 4:57 AM (0/0)
- Keep NSI out — cbk, October 14 @ 3:52 AM (0/0)
- .SEX, .XXX, .KIDS TLDs Restrict Freedom of Speech — ron10000, October 14 @ 3:31 AM (0/0)
- NSI monopoly! — first1, October 14 @ 1:48 AM (3/4)
- Keep NSI Out — Attorney, October 14 @ 1:37 AM (1/2)
- Keep NSI out — pedro, October 14 @ 12:49 AM (0/0)
- After having read most of the applications: .WEB and IOD are the obvious choices — saskia, October 13 @ 11:11 PM (3/3)
- Why applicants for a TLD should pay 50 000 $ — lpele, October 13 @ 10:28 PM (2/3)
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