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    | Username: | USTAR | 
  
    | Date/Time: | Fri, October 20, 2000 at 4:01 PM GMT (Fri, October 20, 2000 at 12:01 AM EDT) | 
  
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    | Subject: | USTAR's Objection to IATA's Application | 
  
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 | Dear Mr. Schneider: Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Your "a question" is really
many questions, and we welcome the opportunity to reply and comment: 1. "You seem
to have taken it upon yourself to lead the criticism of the IATA application." Not
so; USTAR has responded, along with many other respondents. We are neither leading
the "charge", nor ignoring it. 2. "Why didn't USTAR or one of the other travel
agent organizations file a competing application for a ".travel" TLD with ICANN?" USTAR,
like other agency organizations, is also a considerable stakeholder in the results
of the .travel TLD outcome. As such, we felt that travel agents, while perhaps more
diverse than air carriers from a travel business perspective, are also an industry
sector which should refrain from management of the .travel TLD. I can assure you,
however, that if USTAR or any other travel agency organization had filed for .travel,
IATA would have been among the first to object. We feel that a truly independent
third party should manage this TLD. 3. "Now, the only choices open to ICANN are: 
(1) grant the IATA application, or (2) deny the Internet the benefit of a ".travel"
TLD altogether." Not so; We fully anticipate that at some future time another application
will be solicited or received to manage .travel. While there indeed may be some benefits
to a well-managed, fair administration of .travel, the disadvantages to IATA managing
same are, in USTAR's opinion, overwhelming.    4. "Why don't you just
continue to operate your own website in ".com" or wherever it is, and let the marketplace
decide if the IATA proposal has any merit?  In other words, live and let live,
which is the Internet way." We agree fully with your basic statement that the marketplace
should decide on the merit of IATA's proposal. This forum is a first step in assessing
the marketplace sentiment regarding IATA's plan. Many are indicating that sentiment,
and so far, it would appear that most share the concerns which USTAR has expressed.
Our only issue with IATA is its lack of independence and its clear conflict of interest. To
put things in perspective, who do you think will get delta.travel?: a) Delta Travel
Agencyb) Delta Queen River Boat Cruises
 c) Delta Hotels and Resorts
 d)
Delta Air Lines
 ... I think you know the answer to that question!  5. "Ustar,
you admit you are a travel agent association (although my own travel agent says she
has never heard of you), and it looks to me like you just want to shut down the added
competition that IATA's new TLD will introduce to your members, and deny consumers
the resulting benefits in terms of convenience, efficiency, and financial savings." USTAR
is a travel agency association with over 1000 members in the United States. Our counterparts
in Canada (CSTAR), seven countries in Europe (ESTAR), Australia (ASTAR), India (ISTAR),
and Mexico (MEXSTAR) represent nearly 10,000 travel agencies worldwide. While I can't
speak to the issue as to why your travel agent does not know us, we are equally not
acquainted with every travel agency either.  The majority of travel agents know
USTAR quite well. As to "shutting down competition", nothing could be further from
the truth. Our only concern is that the management of .travel be fair and unbiased.
IATA simply can't provide that assurance. When a qualified, truly independent applicant
steps forward, you can be assured that USTAR will give its full support to the .travel
TLD. USTAR appreciates this opportunity to reply to your comments. 
 
 
 
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Message Thread:
  - .travel Application by International Air Transport Association   Moderator, October 7 @ 10:04 PM (161/200)
    - IATA is the Wrong Choice   thehacker, November 5 @ 11:35 PM (1/1)
- Amtrak Support  for IATA's .travel proposal   tomk, November 5 @ 11:06 PM (0/0)
- Supplemental Comments of IATA in Support of .travel tld   IATA.travel Team, November 5 @ 10:52 PM (0/0)
- OSSN Is Opposed to IATA Dot Travel Application   OSSN, November 5 @ 10:29 PM (0/0)
- ACTA Canada on IATA application   ACTA Canada, November 5 @ 4:43 PM (0/0)
- ARTA Opposes IATA Proposal   ARTA, November 5 @ 3:20 PM (1/1)
- the essence of internet violated by this proposal   whyinternet, November 5 @ 10:06 AM (0/0)
- KPMG Consulting LP supports IATA's proposal for "DOT.TRAVEL"   kpmg, November 4 @ 7:12 PM (0/0)
- Question for  .travel   PHXbird, November 4 @ 6:20 PM (0/0)
- Days Off Travel opposes IATA's proposal to control .travel domain   Days Off Travel, November 4 @ 12:55 AM (0/0)
- Opposition to "dot.travel" and IATA application   travelocity, November 3 @ 11:35 PM (1/1)
- IATA - BAD CHOICE   mjacobs, November 3 @ 11:24 PM (0/0)
- IATA Should Not Control Travel TLD   rmorgan, November 3 @ 10:54 PM (0/0)
- Comments on IATA ".travel" Application   Travel Industry Association of America, November 3 @ 10:24 PM (0/0)
- IATA is  N O T  a good selection   WWS2, November 3 @ 10:02 PM (0/0)
- Lot of questions here...   PHXbird, November 3 @ 6:38 PM (0/0)
- IH&RA supports the ". travel" application   Christiane Dhorne, November 3 @ 5:55 PM (0/0)
- Support from SITA World Travel (Nepal)   SITA World Travel (Nepal), November 3 @ 5:52 PM (0/0)
- Support from Israeli Government Tourism Office for the Nordic Countries   Nir Raz, November 3 @ 5:49 PM (0/0)
- Southeast Travel Corp support to ". travel" application   Remedios A. Raymundo, November 3 @ 5:43 PM (0/0)
- Wide World Travel-Mister Vacation Supports IATA".travel"   Tim Madden, November 3 @ 5:36 PM (0/0)
- Bill Healy Travel Supports IATA".travel"   Bill Healy, November 3 @ 5:34 PM (0/0)
- Support to IATA".travel" from Gill Airways   Stan Abbott, November 3 @ 5:32 PM (0/0)
- AEA support ".travel"TLD   K.H. Neumeister, November 3 @ 5:13 PM (0/0)
- UFTAA  announces support  for IATA ".travel" proposal   B.Backman, November 3 @ 4:33 PM (0/0)
- China Air Services supports IATA ". travel"Application   Sun Yi, November 3 @ 4:18 PM (0/0)
- Support of CITS to IATA ". travel"Application   China International Travel Service (CITS, November 3 @ 4:17 PM (0/0)
- Golf Tours St.Andrews GmbH: Support to IATA ".travel"Application   W. R. Neumann, November 3 @ 3:03 PM (0/0)
- Support IATA's bid to sponsor ".travel"   cpaone, November 3 @ 2:46 PM (0/0)
- IACA support to IATA  ".traver" Application   Alan L. Brown, November 3 @ 1:54 PM (0/0)
- Citbank supports IATA's proposal   Telfer, November 3 @ 12:32 AM (0/0)
- Federation of Air Transport User Representatives in Europe suppors IATA proposal   Philip Martin, November 3 @ 11:44 AM (0/0)
- Support from WTO to IATA Application   Dr. D.J. de Villiers, November 3 @ 11:33 AM (0/0)
- Aeroport de Paris support IATA .travel TLD application   Aeroport de Paris (ADP), November 3 @ 11:24 AM (0/0)
- CAE Electronics' support of IATA to sponsor a ".travel"TLD   S. Isaacs, November 3 @ 11:00 AM (0/0)
- BAA plc supports IATA Application   Richard Everitt, November 3 @ 10:46 AM (0/0)
- Support for the 'travel'TLD   Paul Mencinger, November 3 @ 10:21 AM (0/0)
- Support to IATA Application from the IAPA   Britta Ashu, November 3 @ 8:44 AM (0/0)
- Federation of International Youth Travel Organisations support IATA proposal   Peter de Jong, November 3 @ 8:42 AM (0/0)
- Support to IATA Application from the Association of Language Travel Organisations   Marcella ray Kutek, November 3 @ 8:03 AM (0/0)
- World Youth and Student Travel Conference supports IATA Application   Susan Goldstein, November 3 @ 7:57 AM (0/0)
- International Union of Railways (U.I.C.) supports IATA ".travel"Application   Jean-François Gygax, November 3 @ 7:53 AM (0/0)
- WTTC support to IATA ".travel"Application   WTTC, November 3 @ 7:48 AM (0/0)
- ASTA Reaches Compromise with IATA   stephm, November 2 @ 9:39 PM (2/2)
- Fairchild Dornier Supports IATA Proposal   clay10, November 2 @ 8:43 PM (0/0)
- Support for IATA   gomission, November 2 @ 8:05 PM (0/0)
- Re: IATA .travel   Randy1989, November 2 @ 4:05 PM (0/0)
- Support IATA Proposal to sponsor '.travel. TLD   Peter Morrisroe, November 2 @ 3:12 PM (0/0)
- i wings supports IATA proposal for .Travel TLD   iwings, November 2 @ 3:01 PM (1/1)
- Messe Service Leipzig comment on IATA ".travel" Application   MESSE SERVICE Leipzig, November 2 @ 11:49 AM (1/1)
- Weitzer Hotels comment on IATA ".travel" Application   Weitzner Hotels, November 2 @ 11:46 AM (0/0)
- Comment on IATA ". travel"Application   Aviation and Tourism International, November 2 @ 11:29 AM (0/0)
- Comment on IATA ". travel"Application   VIA Rail Canada, November 2 @ 11:27 AM (0/0)
- .travel   tbs, November 2 @ 10:47 AM (0/0)
- AASA comment on IATA ".travel"Application   Airlines Association of Southern Africa , November 2 @ 10:22 AM (0/0)
- AFRAA Comment on IATA ".travel" Application   African Airlines Association (AFRAA), November 2 @ 10:14 AM (0/0)
- TLD travel   jimbeach, November 1 @ 7:02 PM (0/0)
- We approve of IATA's proposal   messeservice, November 1 @ 3:34 PM (0/0)
- DOT TRAVEl   aloha6560, November 1 @ 2:59 PM (0/0)
- ACCOR Asia Pacific Division Comment on IATA ".travel" Application   IATA .travel Team, November 1 @ 2:49 PM (0/0)
- Comments on IATA ". travel" Application   IATA .travelTeam, November 1 @ 11:48 AM (0/0)
- Tourism Tasmania Support IATA Proposal   asprott, November 1 @ 6:14 AM (0/0)
- IATA Wants To Gouge The Travel Industry   stephan, November 1 @ 1:34 AM (0/0)
- IATA = Communism   Normand, November 1 @ 1:11 AM (0/0)
- IATA WANTS TO GOUGE THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY   stephan, November 1 @ 12:29 AM (0/0)
- SAY NO TO IATA   Leslie, October 31 @ 8:54 PM (0/0)
- make it a global discussion before acting   travelc, October 31 @ 5:07 PM (0/0)
- IATA-TLD.travel   nodot, October 31 @ 3:34 PM (0/0)
- IATA Proposal for ".travel"   CANSO, October 31 @ 11:09 AM (0/0)
- IATA proposal   garyl, October 30 @ 7:51 PM (0/0)
- BOGUS TRAVELHACKER   oskarluts, October 30 @ 7:02 PM (0/0)
- PROPOSED MERGER   Kip, October 30 @ 6:52 PM (0/0)
- Totally opposed to IATA proposal   Valarie J, October 30 @ 5:41 PM (1/1)
- IATAN should not be allowed to control .travel   dltravel, October 29 @ 4:55 PM (0/0)
- IATAN already has one monopoly   doncorley, October 29 @ 4:42 PM (0/0)
- IATA APPLICATION FOR TRAVEL   Royal Jordanian Airline, October 28 @ 7:41 AM (0/0)
- LanChile supports the IATA proposal   AlvaroSostin, October 27 @ 9:38 PM (0/0)
- TLDs   bud@gktravel, October 27 @ 9:27 PM (0/0)
- .TRAVEL PROPOSAL BY IATA   deosaran, October 27 @ 9:11 PM (0/0)
- Is dot-travel necessary?  The category is too broad for only IATA   JoshFriedmanIDC, October 27 @ 7:49 PM (0/0)
- .travel  / IATA is a Cartel !!!   canada, October 27 @ 4:12 PM (0/0)
- dot travel is too broad to be left in the hands of IATA/Airlines   tjs, October 27 @ 4:06 PM (0/0)
- IATAN  registering TLD domain   Faro, October 27 @ 2:51 PM (0/0)
- Support for IATA proposal   dal, October 27 @ 1:17 PM (1/1)
- ATPCO Support of IATA .travel proposal   hsienkiewicz, October 27 @ 12:57 AM (0/0)
- SAir Group supports IATA's proposal   Brigitte, October 27 @ 9:12 AM (0/0)
- IATA in control of dot-travel TLD   skibum, October 27 @ 8:35 AM (0/0)
- IATA's application for .travel TLD   JAL, October 27 @ 5:47 AM (0/0)
- IATA is the Wrong Choice   thehacker, October 27 @ 4:59 AM (0/0)
- Agree with IATA Travel TDL   jim.dullum, October 26 @ 9:51 PM (0/0)
- IATAN ownership of .travel   leigh ann, October 26 @ 9:39 PM (0/0)
- Power Grab By the Airlines   Global View, October 26 @ 8:24 PM (0/0)
- IATA Application   ACTA Canada, October 26 @ 8:08 PM (0/0)
- Dot Travel   RainiPA, October 26 @ 6:40 PM (0/0)
- IATA - concerns   barmar, October 26 @ 5:49 PM (0/0)
- Support for IATA Proposal   aa, October 26 @ 5:10 PM (0/0)
- IATA proposal to sponsor the .travel TLD   Baillie, October 26 @ 3:29 PM (0/0)
- Lufthansa eCommerce supports IATA's proposal   Lufthansa//eCommerce GmbH, October 26 @ 3:14 PM (0/0)
- IATA request for .Travel TLD   djbytown, October 26 @ 12:38 AM (0/0)
- I vote NO for IATA and .travel!!!!   cmania1, October 26 @ 11:44 AM (1/1)
- SUPPORT OF IATA.TRAVEL PROPOSAL   eherrero, October 26 @ 11:12 AM (0/0)
- Support to .travel   NForgeard, October 26 @ 10:25 AM (0/0)
- IATAN is bad for small business!   DonCorley, October 26 @ 8:15 AM (1/1)
- IATA application for registrar of .travel TLD   iktravel, October 26 @ 6:13 AM (0/0)
- IATA's proposal make good sense   airlaw, October 26 @ 12:45 AM (0/0)
- IATA   Commenter, October 25 @ 10:03 PM (0/0)
- IATA's Request for use of ICANN .travel   judyparker, October 25 @ 9:56 PM (0/0)
- Bombardier Aerospace Regional Aircraft Supports IATA's Application   BARA, October 25 @ 9:07 PM (0/0)
- Kenya Airways supports IATA's proposal   Hussein, October 25 @ 3:44 PM (0/0)
- .travel control   scmcswain, October 25 @ 2:48 PM (0/0)
- Support  of IATA ".travel" proposal   asasvithq, October 25 @ 11:58 AM (0/0)
- IATA's proposal should be supported   AAPA, October 25 @ 9:32 AM (0/0)
- IATA  .travel TLD   Dgee5, October 24 @ 10:26 PM (0/0)
- IATA's .Travel proposal   kemp84, October 24 @ 6:21 PM (0/0)
- IATA   rosellla, October 24 @ 5:02 PM (0/0)
- IATA application for .travel is bad business   Nordo, October 24 @ 4:51 PM (0/0)
- IATA  Application for .travel Domain   Donna Tribbie, October 24 @ 4:49 PM (0/0)
- IATA's proposal unacceptable   msteward, October 24 @ 4:12 PM (1/1)
- IATA's application for .travel TLD   vivant, October 24 @ 1:16 PM (0/0)
- PATA Supports IATA's Proposal   hikida, October 24 @ 9:25 AM (0/0)
- IATA should not control new .travel TLD   bh0205, October 23 @ 5:16 PM (0/0)
- IATA and Dot Travel   gapjmp, October 23 @ 4:52 PM (1/1)
- IATA .travel TLD   ncc, October 23 @ 3:23 PM (1/1)
- Change is good   tfardell, October 23 @ 2:19 PM (0/0)
- IATAN   ochart, October 23 @ 11:55 AM (0/0)
- .Travel   znancy, October 22 @ 4:29 PM (0/0)
- iata application   travel maven, October 22 @ 3:17 PM (0/0)
- IATA proposal for TDL   jans, October 21 @ 4:34 PM (0/0)
- .travel   sfdtvl, October 21 @ 2:20 AM (0/0)
- .travel to IATA? -- bad idea?   PHXbird, October 21 @ 1:40 AM (0/0)
- International Air Transport Association (IATA) application to manage and control ".travel"   gdm, October 21 @ 1:21 AM (0/0)
- IATA application for .travel domain name   travdesign, October 21 @ 1:10 AM (2/2)
- Why IATA should not be accepted   Baton, October 20 @ 6:37 PM (0/0)
- IATA is the wrong choice   Pilgrim, October 20 @ 5:01 PM (0/0)
- A Question for USTAR   frequent traveller, October 20 @ 2:31 PM (1/7)
      - USTAR's Objection to IATA's Application   USTAR, October 20 @ 4:01 PM (1/6)
- IATA & .travel   LBerry, October 20 @ 2:25 PM (0/0)
- Support to IATA ".travel " proposal   aaco, October 20 @ 10:46 AM (2/2)
- IATA Dot Travel   elbelle, October 20 @ 7:02 AM (0/0)
- The real reason behind these protests   ielbury, October 20 @ 1:20 AM (1/1)
- ".travel" application   TBlair, October 19 @ 7:34 PM (0/0)
- IATA Policies far to restrictive for this proposed TLD string   global view, October 19 @ 7:25 PM (0/0)
- Say NO to dot travel   pentay, October 19 @ 7:17 PM (0/0)
- IATA ownership of .travel   bc544960, October 19 @ 5:18 PM (0/0)
- .travel Application by IATA   PMCCUNE, October 19 @ 5:08 PM (0/0)
- IATA application for .travel   elantravel, October 19 @ 4:42 PM (0/0)
- IATA application for .Travel   paulk, October 19 @ 4:09 PM (0/0)
- IATAN i.e. "THE AIRLINES" Let's add to a monopoly   greenfire, October 19 @ 4:07 PM (0/0)
- IATA application for.travel domain   tmtravel, October 19 @ 3:30 PM (0/0)
- A Reply from the IATA dot-travel Team   dot-travel, October 19 @ 2:46 PM (2/2)
- IATA's application for .travel domain name   makie, October 19 @ 2:35 PM (0/0)
- IATA Application for TLD of .travel   travwis, October 19 @ 1:15 PM (0/0)
- IATA proposal to acquire and control .travel domain names   dhshave, October 19 @ 3:11 AM (0/0)
- IATA Should Not be Permitted Ownership of ".travel"   USTAR, October 19 @ 12:53 AM (0/0)
- .travel application and IATA   Terri Raab, October 19 @ 12:25 AM (0/0)
- IATA   tmerkens, October 19 @ 12:22 AM (0/0)
- IATA application for .travel domain   Traude, October 18 @ 11:46 PM (2/2)
- .travel and IATA   chaz4, October 18 @ 10:58 PM (1/1)
- IATAN .travel   acetrav, October 18 @ 10:46 PM (1/1)
- Proposition to ICANN, Applicants & Internet Community   Pistoff, October 18 @ 6:42 PM (1/1)
- Contract with Neustar/JV ?   global view, October 17 @ 7:59 PM (2/3)
- This proposal is far too restrictive for a TLD like "travel"   global view, October 17 @ 5:10 PM (1/3)
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