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    | Username: | travelocity | 
  
    | Date/Time: | Fri, November 3, 2000 at 11:35 PM GMT | 
  
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    | Subject: | Opposition to "dot.travel" and IATA application | 
  
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 | Travelocity.com is opposed to the creation of a .travel gTLD and, particularly,
to the selection of IATA as the registry should such a gTLD be created.
 
 Travelocity
supports the expansion of gTLDs when designed to benefit consumers, businesses, and
individuals by making the Internet more efficient.  However, the proposed gTLD
".travel" is, by design, a restricted category that neither holds cross-industry
appeal (as compared to  current gTLDs: .com, .net, and .org) nor any clear boundary
that would separate those sites that would be under this domain as opposed to those
that belong elsewhere.  For example, where would a tourism site for a county
or city belong?  What about a site offering information about but not reservations
capability for a specific kind of travel?   Absent such obvious boundaries
and any cross-industry appeal, a .travel gTLD will actually limit the growth potential
of the Internet by making it more difficult for consumers to locate information of
interest to them regarding travel and tourism.
 We submit that consumers
would be best served by the establishment of more generic gTLDs available for 
both commercial and noncommercial uses. However, if ".travel" is created, Travelocity
believes strongly that it should be administered by a registry that is a clearly
neutral party with respect to the proposed registrant constituencies --  particularly
in the case where the registry sets its own restrictions defining admissible registrants
and/or domain names.  Indeed, if such restrictions were in place, a neutral
registry would be necessary to ensure that the interests of all future domain name
registrants/applicants are fairly and equally represented.   IATA, the trade
group of the airline industry, is anything but a neutral party with respect to the
distribution and registration of domain names.  Indeed, IATA members have made
it quite clear that the airlines wish to use the Internet to limit the role played
by third party intermediaries and travel agents.  For example, at an IATA conference
earlier this year, an official acknowledged airline industry fears that absent decisive
action by suppliers, "non-airline entities can use [Internet] technology to interpose
themselves in our business." IATA Legal Symposium on eCommerce at Slide 5 (presentation
by Michael Feldman, February 2000).   This was because, according to this
official, airlines were "less aggressive" than other industry participants is adopting
the Internet. Given the current controversy over joint airline efforts to form
joint Internet ventures designed to limit the viability of third party distribution
channels -- as witnessed by inquiries now underway at the U.S. Department of Transportation,
the U.S. Department of Justice, and the Senate Commerce Committee into joint airline
travel agencies such as "Orbitz" -- selecting an airline trade group as the registry
for a dot.travel gTLD would be a serious mistake.  Travelocity complete comments
on this topic can be found in the link attached to this message. Travelocity.com
supports the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy, and believes that domain
names registered under the new gTLDs should be subject to it.   Travelocity.com
opposes use requirements for domain names under the .travel gTLD, because registries
should not subject domain name registrants to monitoring and/or controlling supervision. 
Because the registry will not have a contract with the registrant, but will instead
contract with registrars, this requirement places upon domain name registrants an
undue burden for which there is no contractual protection or recourse.  The
use of a domain name is a business or personal decision that should be dictated only
by the domain name registrant.  Moreover, registries should not have the regulatory
power to monitor content of websites and/or email and to revoke a domain name registration
based upon that content.  That regulatory power currently and properly rests
with the courts. At present, there are no use requirements, registrant restrictions,
and volume limitations for .com, .net, and .org domain names, while those rules are
in place for some ccTLDs.  One need only compare the vastly different registration
rates under these TLDs to see how use requirements, registrant restrictions, and
volume limitations curb growth on the Internet.   In summary, Travelocity.com
supports the expansion of gTLDs in a manner that fosters growth on the Internet,
for both commercial and noncommercial interests.   A dot.travel gTLD should
be administered by a neutral party.  The Internet has advanced thus far under
the guiding principles of free markets and freedom of expression, and cannot advance
further if broad, restrictive powers are granted to non-neutral parties. Andrew
B. SteinbergExecutive Vice President Administration
 General Counsel and Secretary
 Travelocity.com
 
       
 
 
 
 
 
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    | Link: | Travelocity comments to the U.S. Dept of Transportation | 
Message Thread:
  - .travel Application by International Air Transport Association   Moderator, October 7 @ 10:04 PM (161/200)
    - IATA is the Wrong Choice   thehacker, November 5 @ 11:35 PM (1/1)
- Amtrak Support  for IATA's .travel proposal   tomk, November 5 @ 11:06 PM (0/0)
- Supplemental Comments of IATA in Support of .travel tld   IATA.travel Team, November 5 @ 10:52 PM (0/0)
- OSSN Is Opposed to IATA Dot Travel Application   OSSN, November 5 @ 10:29 PM (0/0)
- ACTA Canada on IATA application   ACTA Canada, November 5 @ 4:43 PM (0/0)
- ARTA Opposes IATA Proposal   ARTA, November 5 @ 3:20 PM (1/1)
- the essence of internet violated by this proposal   whyinternet, November 5 @ 10:06 AM (0/0)
- KPMG Consulting LP supports IATA's proposal for "DOT.TRAVEL"   kpmg, November 4 @ 7:12 PM (0/0)
- Question for  .travel   PHXbird, November 4 @ 6:20 PM (0/0)
- Days Off Travel opposes IATA's proposal to control .travel domain   Days Off Travel, November 4 @ 12:55 AM (0/0)
- Opposition to "dot.travel" and IATA application   travelocity, November 3 @ 11:35 PM (1/1)
- IATA - BAD CHOICE   mjacobs, November 3 @ 11:24 PM (0/0)
- IATA Should Not Control Travel TLD   rmorgan, November 3 @ 10:54 PM (0/0)
- Comments on IATA ".travel" Application   Travel Industry Association of America, November 3 @ 10:24 PM (0/0)
- IATA is  N O T  a good selection   WWS2, November 3 @ 10:02 PM (0/0)
- Lot of questions here...   PHXbird, November 3 @ 6:38 PM (0/0)
- IH&RA supports the ". travel" application   Christiane Dhorne, November 3 @ 5:55 PM (0/0)
- Support from SITA World Travel (Nepal)   SITA World Travel (Nepal), November 3 @ 5:52 PM (0/0)
- Support from Israeli Government Tourism Office for the Nordic Countries   Nir Raz, November 3 @ 5:49 PM (0/0)
- Southeast Travel Corp support to ". travel" application   Remedios A. Raymundo, November 3 @ 5:43 PM (0/0)
- Wide World Travel-Mister Vacation Supports IATA".travel"   Tim Madden, November 3 @ 5:36 PM (0/0)
- Bill Healy Travel Supports IATA".travel"   Bill Healy, November 3 @ 5:34 PM (0/0)
- Support to IATA".travel" from Gill Airways   Stan Abbott, November 3 @ 5:32 PM (0/0)
- AEA support ".travel"TLD   K.H. Neumeister, November 3 @ 5:13 PM (0/0)
- UFTAA  announces support  for IATA ".travel" proposal   B.Backman, November 3 @ 4:33 PM (0/0)
- China Air Services supports IATA ". travel"Application   Sun Yi, November 3 @ 4:18 PM (0/0)
- Support of CITS to IATA ". travel"Application   China International Travel Service (CITS, November 3 @ 4:17 PM (0/0)
- Golf Tours St.Andrews GmbH: Support to IATA ".travel"Application   W. R. Neumann, November 3 @ 3:03 PM (0/0)
- Support IATA's bid to sponsor ".travel"   cpaone, November 3 @ 2:46 PM (0/0)
- IACA support to IATA  ".traver" Application   Alan L. Brown, November 3 @ 1:54 PM (0/0)
- Citbank supports IATA's proposal   Telfer, November 3 @ 12:32 AM (0/0)
- Federation of Air Transport User Representatives in Europe suppors IATA proposal   Philip Martin, November 3 @ 11:44 AM (0/0)
- Support from WTO to IATA Application   Dr. D.J. de Villiers, November 3 @ 11:33 AM (0/0)
- Aeroport de Paris support IATA .travel TLD application   Aeroport de Paris (ADP), November 3 @ 11:24 AM (0/0)
- CAE Electronics' support of IATA to sponsor a ".travel"TLD   S. Isaacs, November 3 @ 11:00 AM (0/0)
- BAA plc supports IATA Application   Richard Everitt, November 3 @ 10:46 AM (0/0)
- Support for the 'travel'TLD   Paul Mencinger, November 3 @ 10:21 AM (0/0)
- Support to IATA Application from the IAPA   Britta Ashu, November 3 @ 8:44 AM (0/0)
- Federation of International Youth Travel Organisations support IATA proposal   Peter de Jong, November 3 @ 8:42 AM (0/0)
- Support to IATA Application from the Association of Language Travel Organisations   Marcella ray Kutek, November 3 @ 8:03 AM (0/0)
- World Youth and Student Travel Conference supports IATA Application   Susan Goldstein, November 3 @ 7:57 AM (0/0)
- International Union of Railways (U.I.C.) supports IATA ".travel"Application   Jean-François Gygax, November 3 @ 7:53 AM (0/0)
- WTTC support to IATA ".travel"Application   WTTC, November 3 @ 7:48 AM (0/0)
- ASTA Reaches Compromise with IATA   stephm, November 2 @ 9:39 PM (2/2)
- Fairchild Dornier Supports IATA Proposal   clay10, November 2 @ 8:43 PM (0/0)
- Support for IATA   gomission, November 2 @ 8:05 PM (0/0)
- Re: IATA .travel   Randy1989, November 2 @ 4:05 PM (0/0)
- Support IATA Proposal to sponsor '.travel. TLD   Peter Morrisroe, November 2 @ 3:12 PM (0/0)
- i wings supports IATA proposal for .Travel TLD   iwings, November 2 @ 3:01 PM (1/1)
- Messe Service Leipzig comment on IATA ".travel" Application   MESSE SERVICE Leipzig, November 2 @ 11:49 AM (1/1)
- Weitzer Hotels comment on IATA ".travel" Application   Weitzner Hotels, November 2 @ 11:46 AM (0/0)
- Comment on IATA ". travel"Application   Aviation and Tourism International, November 2 @ 11:29 AM (0/0)
- Comment on IATA ". travel"Application   VIA Rail Canada, November 2 @ 11:27 AM (0/0)
- .travel   tbs, November 2 @ 10:47 AM (0/0)
- AASA comment on IATA ".travel"Application   Airlines Association of Southern Africa , November 2 @ 10:22 AM (0/0)
- AFRAA Comment on IATA ".travel" Application   African Airlines Association (AFRAA), November 2 @ 10:14 AM (0/0)
- TLD travel   jimbeach, November 1 @ 7:02 PM (0/0)
- We approve of IATA's proposal   messeservice, November 1 @ 3:34 PM (0/0)
- DOT TRAVEl   aloha6560, November 1 @ 2:59 PM (0/0)
- ACCOR Asia Pacific Division Comment on IATA ".travel" Application   IATA .travel Team, November 1 @ 2:49 PM (0/0)
- Comments on IATA ". travel" Application   IATA .travelTeam, November 1 @ 11:48 AM (0/0)
- Tourism Tasmania Support IATA Proposal   asprott, November 1 @ 6:14 AM (0/0)
- IATA Wants To Gouge The Travel Industry   stephan, November 1 @ 1:34 AM (0/0)
- IATA = Communism   Normand, November 1 @ 1:11 AM (0/0)
- IATA WANTS TO GOUGE THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY   stephan, November 1 @ 12:29 AM (0/0)
- SAY NO TO IATA   Leslie, October 31 @ 8:54 PM (0/0)
- make it a global discussion before acting   travelc, October 31 @ 5:07 PM (0/0)
- IATA-TLD.travel   nodot, October 31 @ 3:34 PM (0/0)
- IATA Proposal for ".travel"   CANSO, October 31 @ 11:09 AM (0/0)
- IATA proposal   garyl, October 30 @ 7:51 PM (0/0)
- BOGUS TRAVELHACKER   oskarluts, October 30 @ 7:02 PM (0/0)
- PROPOSED MERGER   Kip, October 30 @ 6:52 PM (0/0)
- Totally opposed to IATA proposal   Valarie J, October 30 @ 5:41 PM (1/1)
- IATAN should not be allowed to control .travel   dltravel, October 29 @ 4:55 PM (0/0)
- IATAN already has one monopoly   doncorley, October 29 @ 4:42 PM (0/0)
- IATA APPLICATION FOR TRAVEL   Royal Jordanian Airline, October 28 @ 7:41 AM (0/0)
- LanChile supports the IATA proposal   AlvaroSostin, October 27 @ 9:38 PM (0/0)
- TLDs   bud@gktravel, October 27 @ 9:27 PM (0/0)
- .TRAVEL PROPOSAL BY IATA   deosaran, October 27 @ 9:11 PM (0/0)
- Is dot-travel necessary?  The category is too broad for only IATA   JoshFriedmanIDC, October 27 @ 7:49 PM (0/0)
- .travel  / IATA is a Cartel !!!   canada, October 27 @ 4:12 PM (0/0)
- dot travel is too broad to be left in the hands of IATA/Airlines   tjs, October 27 @ 4:06 PM (0/0)
- IATAN  registering TLD domain   Faro, October 27 @ 2:51 PM (0/0)
- Support for IATA proposal   dal, October 27 @ 1:17 PM (1/1)
- ATPCO Support of IATA .travel proposal   hsienkiewicz, October 27 @ 12:57 AM (0/0)
- SAir Group supports IATA's proposal   Brigitte, October 27 @ 9:12 AM (0/0)
- IATA in control of dot-travel TLD   skibum, October 27 @ 8:35 AM (0/0)
- IATA's application for .travel TLD   JAL, October 27 @ 5:47 AM (0/0)
- IATA is the Wrong Choice   thehacker, October 27 @ 4:59 AM (0/0)
- Agree with IATA Travel TDL   jim.dullum, October 26 @ 9:51 PM (0/0)
- IATAN ownership of .travel   leigh ann, October 26 @ 9:39 PM (0/0)
- Power Grab By the Airlines   Global View, October 26 @ 8:24 PM (0/0)
- IATA Application   ACTA Canada, October 26 @ 8:08 PM (0/0)
- Dot Travel   RainiPA, October 26 @ 6:40 PM (0/0)
- IATA - concerns   barmar, October 26 @ 5:49 PM (0/0)
- Support for IATA Proposal   aa, October 26 @ 5:10 PM (0/0)
- IATA proposal to sponsor the .travel TLD   Baillie, October 26 @ 3:29 PM (0/0)
- Lufthansa eCommerce supports IATA's proposal   Lufthansa//eCommerce GmbH, October 26 @ 3:14 PM (0/0)
- IATA request for .Travel TLD   djbytown, October 26 @ 12:38 AM (0/0)
- I vote NO for IATA and .travel!!!!   cmania1, October 26 @ 11:44 AM (1/1)
- SUPPORT OF IATA.TRAVEL PROPOSAL   eherrero, October 26 @ 11:12 AM (0/0)
- Support to .travel   NForgeard, October 26 @ 10:25 AM (0/0)
- IATAN is bad for small business!   DonCorley, October 26 @ 8:15 AM (1/1)
- IATA application for registrar of .travel TLD   iktravel, October 26 @ 6:13 AM (0/0)
- IATA's proposal make good sense   airlaw, October 26 @ 12:45 AM (0/0)
- IATA   Commenter, October 25 @ 10:03 PM (0/0)
- IATA's Request for use of ICANN .travel   judyparker, October 25 @ 9:56 PM (0/0)
- Bombardier Aerospace Regional Aircraft Supports IATA's Application   BARA, October 25 @ 9:07 PM (0/0)
- Kenya Airways supports IATA's proposal   Hussein, October 25 @ 3:44 PM (0/0)
- .travel control   scmcswain, October 25 @ 2:48 PM (0/0)
- Support  of IATA ".travel" proposal   asasvithq, October 25 @ 11:58 AM (0/0)
- IATA's proposal should be supported   AAPA, October 25 @ 9:32 AM (0/0)
- IATA  .travel TLD   Dgee5, October 24 @ 10:26 PM (0/0)
- IATA's .Travel proposal   kemp84, October 24 @ 6:21 PM (0/0)
- IATA   rosellla, October 24 @ 5:02 PM (0/0)
- IATA application for .travel is bad business   Nordo, October 24 @ 4:51 PM (0/0)
- IATA  Application for .travel Domain   Donna Tribbie, October 24 @ 4:49 PM (0/0)
- IATA's proposal unacceptable   msteward, October 24 @ 4:12 PM (1/1)
- IATA's application for .travel TLD   vivant, October 24 @ 1:16 PM (0/0)
- PATA Supports IATA's Proposal   hikida, October 24 @ 9:25 AM (0/0)
- IATA should not control new .travel TLD   bh0205, October 23 @ 5:16 PM (0/0)
- IATA and Dot Travel   gapjmp, October 23 @ 4:52 PM (1/1)
- IATA .travel TLD   ncc, October 23 @ 3:23 PM (1/1)
- Change is good   tfardell, October 23 @ 2:19 PM (0/0)
- IATAN   ochart, October 23 @ 11:55 AM (0/0)
- .Travel   znancy, October 22 @ 4:29 PM (0/0)
- iata application   travel maven, October 22 @ 3:17 PM (0/0)
- IATA proposal for TDL   jans, October 21 @ 4:34 PM (0/0)
- .travel   sfdtvl, October 21 @ 2:20 AM (0/0)
- .travel to IATA? -- bad idea?   PHXbird, October 21 @ 1:40 AM (0/0)
- International Air Transport Association (IATA) application to manage and control ".travel"   gdm, October 21 @ 1:21 AM (0/0)
- IATA application for .travel domain name   travdesign, October 21 @ 1:10 AM (2/2)
- Why IATA should not be accepted   Baton, October 20 @ 6:37 PM (0/0)
- IATA is the wrong choice   Pilgrim, October 20 @ 5:01 PM (0/0)
- A Question for USTAR   frequent traveller, October 20 @ 2:31 PM (1/7)
- IATA & .travel   LBerry, October 20 @ 2:25 PM (0/0)
- Support to IATA ".travel " proposal   aaco, October 20 @ 10:46 AM (2/2)
- IATA Dot Travel   elbelle, October 20 @ 7:02 AM (0/0)
- The real reason behind these protests   ielbury, October 20 @ 1:20 AM (1/1)
- ".travel" application   TBlair, October 19 @ 7:34 PM (0/0)
- IATA Policies far to restrictive for this proposed TLD string   global view, October 19 @ 7:25 PM (0/0)
- Say NO to dot travel   pentay, October 19 @ 7:17 PM (0/0)
- IATA ownership of .travel   bc544960, October 19 @ 5:18 PM (0/0)
- .travel Application by IATA   PMCCUNE, October 19 @ 5:08 PM (0/0)
- IATA application for .travel   elantravel, October 19 @ 4:42 PM (0/0)
- IATA application for .Travel   paulk, October 19 @ 4:09 PM (0/0)
- IATAN i.e. "THE AIRLINES" Let's add to a monopoly   greenfire, October 19 @ 4:07 PM (0/0)
- IATA application for.travel domain   tmtravel, October 19 @ 3:30 PM (0/0)
- A Reply from the IATA dot-travel Team   dot-travel, October 19 @ 2:46 PM (2/2)
- IATA's application for .travel domain name   makie, October 19 @ 2:35 PM (0/0)
- IATA Application for TLD of .travel   travwis, October 19 @ 1:15 PM (0/0)
- IATA proposal to acquire and control .travel domain names   dhshave, October 19 @ 3:11 AM (0/0)
- IATA Should Not be Permitted Ownership of ".travel"   USTAR, October 19 @ 12:53 AM (0/0)
- .travel application and IATA   Terri Raab, October 19 @ 12:25 AM (0/0)
- IATA   tmerkens, October 19 @ 12:22 AM (0/0)
- IATA application for .travel domain   Traude, October 18 @ 11:46 PM (2/2)
- .travel and IATA   chaz4, October 18 @ 10:58 PM (1/1)
- IATAN .travel   acetrav, October 18 @ 10:46 PM (1/1)
- Proposition to ICANN, Applicants & Internet Community   Pistoff, October 18 @ 6:42 PM (1/1)
- Contract with Neustar/JV ?   global view, October 17 @ 7:59 PM (2/3)
- This proposal is far too restrictive for a TLD like "travel"   global view, October 17 @ 5:10 PM (1/3)
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