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I read somewhere about IOD dropping a law suit, which if I recall was against Icann's
predecessor, since they were shut down anyway. So the trademark litigation must
be a separate issue. If you feel so strongly that you have a valid trademark, why
were you waiting for Icann's blessing. Why didn't you just take .web on-line by creating
you own root servers or something - or is that not feasible/possible.
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Message Thread:
- General Comments — Moderator, October 7 @ 10:40 PM (445/1407)
- This needs to be investigated further and explained in greater detail — cgrady, November 6 @ 1:14 AM (0/0)
- The "Individual" Constituency is not represented, but I thought they should!! — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 6 @ 12:56 AM (0/0)
- Final Thoughts — World Thoughts, November 6 @ 12:39 AM (0/0)
- Too broad or too norrow — johnD, November 6 @ 12:38 AM (0/0)
- Plead to ICANN — cgrady, November 6 @ 12:20 AM (0/0)
- Compliments to ICANN! — Robert_Jacobson, November 6 @ 12:06 AM (0/0)
- IATA APPLICATION FOR TLD — susansammons, November 5 @ 11:48 PM (1/1)
- http://www.joinfoci.org — jtrade, November 5 @ 11:43 PM (0/0)
- Questions for applicants re registrars and resellers — bfellman, November 5 @ 11:42 PM (0/0)
- Comments on New TLDs -- Motion Picture Association — TDD, November 5 @ 11:06 PM (0/0)
- COMMERCIAL CONNECT: Questionable ties — lapointe, November 5 @ 10:52 PM (0/0)
- ISPCP on new TLDs — sastre, November 5 @ 10:23 PM (1/1)
- Comments on Proposals for New Top Level Domains — Business Constituency, November 5 @ 10:16 PM (2/2)
- .union — sbenedict, November 5 @ 9:09 PM (0/0)
- .music — TLG 200, November 5 @ 6:33 PM (0/0)
- This Forum: Possibly Nothing More Than A Feel-Good Distraction. Just Paranoia? — dcorish, November 5 @ 5:41 PM (0/0)
- NSI DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR NEW GTLDS - READ THE PROOF! — friedrich, November 5 @ 5:17 PM (0/0)
- “Spectral Web, Inc.’s Comments Regarding the Choice of New Top-Level Domains and Registries” — Spectral Web, Inc., November 5 @ 3:34 PM (1/1)
- Final comments — huguesdb, November 5 @ 3:31 PM (0/0)
- Fair Decision — Jens72, November 5 @ 3:21 PM (1/1)
- Comment on process — jweb, November 5 @ 2:42 PM (0/0)
- ICANN: we know you are listening and we are confident in your fairness — fabrcop, November 5 @ 10:32 AM (1/1)
- Pioneer Preference is most fair method — netizen1, November 5 @ 5:47 AM (0/0)
- More ICANN Bribery? — jtrade, November 5 @ 4:02 AM (0/0)
- This is what the law says ... — friedrich, November 5 @ 12:43 AM (2/2)
- "Dirt in The Domain Name Game" — jtrade, November 5 @ 12:21 AM (1/1)
- General opinion — fagzal, November 5 @ 12:07 AM (0/0)
- Mr. Ken Stubbs will officially represent CORE in ICANNs Public Meeting in Los Angeles! — friedrich, November 4 @ 11:16 PM (0/0)
- ICANN's vision of TLDs for a new order of cyber civilization — R.K. Pillai, November 4 @ 9:03 PM (0/0)
- Dissapointing gTLD suggestions... — z00ker, November 4 @ 7:56 PM (0/0)
- NO to IOD — SayNoToIOD, November 4 @ 7:46 PM (6/6)
- You still have over an hour to admit your own self interest. — anthony 2nd, November 5 @ 11:34 PM (0/0)
- You are boring with your false (and anonymous) statements — fabrcop, November 5 @ 9:59 AM (0/0)
- Sir, you have a right to post here, but not to distort the facts... — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 4 @ 11:38 PM (0/0)
- Say YES! to IOD — first1, November 4 @ 11:05 PM (0/0)
- We all? How many Jim Smith's are you? (poor guy...) — Rebeka, November 4 @ 8:45 PM (0/0)
- These allegations are, of course, false — cambler, November 4 @ 8:12 PM (0/0)
- Neustar/Melbourne IT/Afilias ... Larry, Moe, & Curly — dcorish, November 4 @ 2:39 PM (1/1)
- ICANN: Please correct *NEW* errors before nov 5 — Saskia, November 4 @ 1:07 PM (0/0)
- Basic features of the ideal application — Rgaetano, November 4 @ 9:43 AM (0/0)
- Afilias Whistle Blower — west coast, November 4 @ 8:01 AM (1/1)
- ICANN: You mentioned "fairness" and the "consumer" on your website...I would like to comment... — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 4 @ 7:59 AM (1/1)
- Limitation needed — martin@communards.de, November 4 @ 1:43 AM (1/1)
- A Sunrise Period is Wrong and Unfair — Merlin, November 4 @ 1:36 AM (1/1)
- co-op.com — kimc, November 4 @ 12:51 AM (0/0)
- General Policy Statement of Registry Selection — Frank Mount, November 3 @ 9:34 PM (0/0)
- REGLAND >>> " L I A R S " Never mentioned by ICANN on "Pre-registrations" — AdvantaTel, November 3 @ 9:29 PM (0/0)
- .SHOP to Name.Space, .WEB to IOD, .INFO to Afilias, .SITE to Neustar — netizen1, November 3 @ 8:45 PM (0/0)
- American Civil Liberties Union comments on ICANN TLD application process — cchiu, November 3 @ 8:40 PM (1/2)
- NeuStar LNP Help Desk — chagan, November 3 @ 8:19 PM (0/0)
- YES to .YP - YES TO NEW UNIVERSAL, EFFICIENT and EASY TO USE gTLD's. — Juan Pablo Calvo, November 3 @ 8:09 PM (0/0)
- New TLDs — John Lewis, November 3 @ 7:50 PM (0/0)
- Trademarks can be protected WITHOUT a Sunrise Period! (New TLDs are needed SOON) — fabrcop, November 3 @ 7:13 PM (0/0)
- Strong Vote for .i — rgupta, November 3 @ 6:31 PM (0/0)
- Inadequate selection — Tim Brown, November 3 @ 6:15 PM (0/0)
- .web doesn't solve the problem — tomam, November 3 @ 5:53 PM (2/4)
- Thought Provoking — cyber-cynic, November 3 @ 5:12 PM (3/8)
- TLD preregistration SCAM or what — davidnrn, November 3 @ 1:58 PM (1/1)
- Scrap NSI entirely. Their human interface is dead. — davidnrn, November 3 @ 1:44 PM (0/0)
- ICANN: Please correct errors before nov 5 — saskia, November 3 @ 1:04 PM (0/0)
- ICANN Testifying before Congress about many Issues - ON RECORD.... 7/99 — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 3 @ 6:33 AM (0/0)
- This whole procedure needs reviewing — gt515, November 3 @ 1:31 AM (0/0)
- Avoiding Conflicts of Interest - At last!!! — Anthony 2nd, November 3 @ 12:03 AM (1/1)
- Why No TRADEMARK domain???? — Jello, November 2 @ 10:35 PM (4/4)
- PCIA Comments on Applications Received by ICANN for Operating New TLDs — PCIA, November 2 @ 9:19 PM (1/1)
- .fam TLD — beetle, November 2 @ 5:38 PM (0/0)
- CONTRADICTIONS in IPC's comment about IOD/.web application! — fabrcop, November 2 @ 1:17 PM (0/0)
- To C.Ambler, IOD: why $15? — IODskeptic, November 2 @ 9:32 AM (4/11)
- Nov 1 Status Update — VikashPatel, November 2 @ 7:10 AM (0/0)
- Neustar/MelbourneIT is Either Lying or it's Application is Flawed! — jtrade, November 2 @ 6:26 AM (0/0)
- Grant .WEB to IODesign // Grant .INFO to Afilias — worldwide, November 2 @ 6:16 AM (0/0)
- .MAG would be a good TLD for online MAGAZINES — DRrandy, November 2 @ 6:09 AM (0/0)
- Nobody will trust a referee siding with .. — cello, November 2 @ 5:27 AM (0/0)
- CORE application is good for everyone — Ksoussi, November 2 @ 1:05 AM (0/0)
- Desiderata for new TLDs — mc, November 2 @ 12:24 AM (0/0)
- Support "dot co-op" — idi1, November 1 @ 6:26 PM (0/0)
- Numeric domain names — Gervas, November 1 @ 5:01 PM (0/0)
- ICANN is Not in the business for TM protection.....It's all about the technical aspects of the DNS — Gregory W. Krajewski, November 1 @ 4:31 PM (1/1)
- IPC preliminary evaluation of new TLD applications — SJMetalitz, November 1 @ 3:53 PM (5/7)
- GREAT COMPANY — ManyStores, November 1 @ 3:16 PM (0/0)
- support .museum — CAA, November 1 @ 3:13 PM (0/0)
- GREAT COMPANY — ManyStores, November 1 @ 3:07 PM (0/0)
- Moral rights — fabrcop, November 1 @ 1:59 PM (0/0)
- NO to IATA/TLD — jie, November 1 @ 1:57 PM (0/0)
- What's That Foul Smell? — jtrade, November 1 @ 9:41 AM (0/0)
- The perfect choice is: IOD/.web , Afilias/.info , Neustar/.site — fabrcop, November 1 @ 9:04 AM (0/0)
- The internet should be a utility — mayor, November 1 @ 6:14 AM (0/0)
- Who got it right - in absolute numbers — pedro, November 1 @ 4:11 AM (1/1)
- MSNBC poll - who got it right — pedro, November 1 @ 3:58 AM (0/0)
- .Web, MelbourneIT/Neustar,ICANN Director Greg Crew and Conflict of Interest? — jtrade, November 1 @ 2:17 AM (1/1)
- .WEB to IOD and .SHOP to Name.Space — netizen1, October 31 @ 10:42 PM (0/0)
- Better format for this board! — ville, October 31 @ 10:15 PM (0/0)
- .health TLD — LMS, October 31 @ 9:16 PM (0/0)
- Parallel root server with separate database — PHXbird, October 31 @ 9:13 PM (0/0)
- All applications should be returned. — If-I-can-why-can't-ICANN., October 31 @ 8:59 PM (0/0)
- support .co-op domain — mnfc, October 31 @ 2:54 PM (0/0)
- support for .museum — taieve, October 31 @ 8:57 AM (0/0)
- Are we all missing the point? — cyber-cynic, October 31 @ 7:22 AM (4/9)
- Almostly can't wait..... — herrieta, October 31 @ 5:34 AM (0/0)
- support mumber .tel — emily, October 31 @ 4:54 AM (0/0)
- support NUMBER.tel — philiptsai, October 31 @ 4:43 AM (0/0)
- New TLDs---->.tel is execellent! — philiptsai, October 31 @ 4:23 AM (0/0)
- Cheapest Wins — YellowMello, October 31 @ 3:42 AM (1/1)
- Another Law suit? — cyber-cynic, October 31 @ 12:05 AM (2/15)
- ICANN: listen to this suggestion and be appreciated all over the world — fabrcop, October 30 @ 9:16 PM (0/0)
- Support .health domain — eohtlg, October 30 @ 7:09 PM (0/0)
- MAIN CONCERN: commercialization and monopolization — gilles, October 30 @ 5:53 PM (0/0)
- Is ICANN pulling a fast one? — Anthony 2nd, October 30 @ 11:19 AM (0/0)
- after much research — dandb, October 30 @ 4:36 AM (1/1)
- No new generic unrestricted TLDs PLEASE — huguesdb, October 29 @ 10:41 PM (3/23)
- Why not ONE dot ALT TLD? — itsjpr, October 29 @ 7:25 PM (1/1)
- What do you think? — VikashPatel, October 29 @ 3:35 PM (0/0)
- Top Domain Name Holders — Merlin, October 29 @ 6:34 AM (1/1)
- Messages From The Past (Just A Stroll Down Archive Lane) — Mario, October 29 @ 6:22 AM (0/0)
- Health as a TLD — pschloeffel, October 29 @ 2:51 AM (1/1)
- A "fresh" .web database is the only fair approach. — CyberCitizen, October 28 @ 11:36 PM (5/5)
- Image Online Design must run .web — johnnie, October 28 @ 6:08 PM (0/0)
- IATA — barmar, October 28 @ 4:10 PM (0/0)
- we support the trade union proposal — rousselot, October 28 @ 11:38 AM (0/0)
- Multilingual TLD (¤¤¤å.com) — dannyd@post.com, October 28 @ 8:43 AM (1/1)
- .co-op — andrewmoore, October 28 @ 4:53 AM (0/0)
- One thing for sure....Dot Com needs competition......Dot Web is the answer — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 28 @ 4:31 AM (0/0)
- Please read for yourself why there is so much Anti-Afilias, Neustar sentiment on this board — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 28 @ 4:08 AM (1/1)
- level of conversation — Ville, October 27 @ 8:29 PM (0/0)
- "Beware the ICANN Board Squatter" — jtrade, October 27 @ 7:28 PM (0/0)
- .co-op TLD support — Arnold Oliver, October 27 @ 5:47 PM (2/2)
- Oppose IATA as travel domain provider — DBToursInt, October 27 @ 5:45 PM (1/1)
- .co-op support — Deborah, October 27 @ 5:17 PM (0/0)
- Dot Museum As Top Level Domain Name — Oregon Heritage Commission, October 27 @ 4:19 PM (0/0)
- If We Post About Stubbs, Do We Post Under Afilias? Neustar? Core? Others? — pilot2, October 27 @ 1:19 PM (0/0)
- CAE's support of IATA proposal to sponsor a ".travel" TLD — isaacs, October 27 @ 11:07 AM (0/0)
- .HEALTH and WHO — chriz, October 27 @ 10:54 AM (0/0)
- .kids tld - general observations — john.carr, October 27 @ 9:09 AM (2/2)
- Network Solutions and Great Domains....Register.com and Afternic.com...hmmm — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 27 @ 2:08 AM (1/1)
- Going Offline — cambler, October 27 @ 2:03 AM (1/1)
- Supporting new domain name ".co-op" — San Luis Valley R.E.C., October 26 @ 10:53 PM (0/0)
- *****DIRECT QUESTIONS TO KEN STUBBS***** — Monty, October 26 @ 10:48 PM (0/0)
- Afilias get .web and IOD supporters get their (pre)-Registrations — Rebeka, October 26 @ 10:20 PM (1/2)
- IATA support — Haymaker, October 26 @ 9:11 PM (0/0)
- ICANN: please post other documents about IOD/.web also (in the correspondence) — fabrcop, October 26 @ 6:33 PM (0/0)
- Msnbc-Meeks-Icann — Webster, October 26 @ 5:58 PM (4/17)
- Ken Stubbs (Daily News-Nov. 07/99) — shawn, October 26 @ 5:44 PM (2/3)
- ZDNet Highlights The MSNBC Article! The Link Is In This Post. — pilot2, October 26 @ 4:33 PM (0/0)
- IATA .travel TLD Application — ADP, October 26 @ 2:47 PM (0/0)
- The Real Numbers (The Commentary Process Is being PEVERTED) — Global View, October 26 @ 1:15 PM (3/4)
- TO ICANN board members, staff, and applicants.........WHERE ARE YOU???? — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 26 @ 4:27 AM (1/1)
- .SEX, .XXX, .KIDS TLDs Provide a Freedom of Choice - reply to Ron 1000 — lrfarny, October 26 @ 2:42 AM (1/2)
- request for our trademark - answer from NSI - should we now go to whois GD — ted, October 26 @ 1:26 AM (0/0)
- Monopoly gets bigger! — first1, October 26 @ 12:50 AM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs condems NSI but Afilias makes the same mistakes! — anthony, October 25 @ 11:47 PM (0/0)
- It occurs to me. — World Thoughts, October 25 @ 11:38 PM (0/0)
- NSI/Verisign Buys GreatDomains.com — jtrade, October 25 @ 11:33 PM (1/1)
- ICANN IS NOT DEMOCRATIC - President Ether Dyson — ted, October 25 @ 11:08 PM (0/0)
- domain name ".co-op" — tech, October 25 @ 9:17 PM (1/1)
- How about pioneer preference? — Jeffrey, October 25 @ 8:26 PM (0/0)
- MODERATOR! -- Display messages from: 1 day ago etc. -- doesn't work. — Rebeka, October 25 @ 6:17 PM (1/2)
- ICANN = NSI? where's the competition? — sboisvert, October 25 @ 5:47 PM (0/0)
- undue influence — arturo, October 25 @ 5:09 PM (0/0)
- New Domain Name ".co-op" — Tricounty, October 25 @ 4:54 PM (0/0)
- To C.Ambler, IOD: QUESTION — IODskeptic, October 25 @ 1:15 PM (0/0)
- Dump the dots. — jackb_guppy, October 25 @ 1:10 PM (1/1)
- why .dip ? — dargento, October 25 @ 10:52 AM (0/0)
- New Registration of eTLD to compliment gTLD and ccTLD available — boris7, October 25 @ 8:13 AM (0/0)
- ".tel" — Nicole, October 25 @ 5:30 AM (2/3)
- MSNBC Article about ICANN and .Web — jtrade, October 25 @ 3:41 AM (2/2)
- Comments Period Must be Extended Even Longer! — jtrade, October 25 @ 3:32 AM (1/2)
- Voting on New Tld Applications — jtrade, October 24 @ 8:52 PM (0/0)
- Following the rules — TheWatcher, October 24 @ 7:15 PM (1/2)
- As I Promised-Question For Chris Ambler — CrossFire, October 24 @ 4:57 PM (1/4)
- Choosing wisely — concerned, October 24 @ 4:11 PM (0/0)
- MODERATOR Please HELP!!!!! Forum open for comments until Sunday, 5 November 2000. — Rebeka, October 24 @ 3:59 PM (1/1)
- .co-op — Marlu Lake, October 24 @ 3:24 PM (1/1)
- proposal for handling trademark and conflicting .web registrations — pvos, October 24 @ 2:43 PM (2/2)
- Followup Message For Pilot — CrossFire, October 24 @ 8:09 AM (2/7)
- DNSO - Noncommerical Constituency Proposal....Any Comments on their ideas — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 24 @ 5:01 AM (2/3)
- inane multiple posting — dansokol, October 24 @ 4:54 AM (0/0)
- The world is watching....A spirit of "openness" and cooperation needs to exist...Success will result — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 24 @ 4:23 AM (0/0)
- Where is the Competition? — jtrade, October 24 @ 1:58 AM (1/2)
- Where's the Competition? — jtrade, October 24 @ 1:37 AM (0/0)
- New proof of concept?? -- ICM and Blueberry hill — brahim_m, October 24 @ 12:22 AM (0/0)
- IOD and Ken Stubbs — Merlin, October 24 @ 12:16 AM (1/1)
- .SHARE victim of a $50,000 application fee — domainSHARE.com, October 23 @ 10:49 PM (0/0)
- ICANN - please correct the dead link — friedrich, October 23 @ 10:25 PM (1/1)
- NSI Cybersquatting — jtrade, October 23 @ 10:14 PM (0/0)
- .WS Claims .WEB Is Unfair. Read .WS E-Mail Exchange With ICANN — pilot2, October 23 @ 9:56 PM (2/5)
- Apoyamos la creación de dominio para Cooperativas — ronaldag, October 23 @ 9:37 PM (0/0)
- Support for .DIR TLD — cstone, October 23 @ 8:24 PM (0/0)
- .co-op — shanel, October 23 @ 6:10 PM (2/3)
- Article Touching On Lawsuit Involving NSI And Anti-Trust Matters — CrossFire, October 23 @ 6:00 PM (0/0)
- A Solicitation For Readers & Feedback — CrossFire, October 23 @ 5:43 PM (3/6)
- The truth about .web (short version) — fabrcop, October 23 @ 3:28 PM (0/0)
- The truth about .web (long version) — fabrcop, October 23 @ 3:23 PM (0/0)
- coop suffix (TLD) name — mikeb, October 23 @ 1:03 PM (1/3)
- .co-op TLD — mcremc, October 23 @ 1:02 PM (0/0)
- $2,500,000 Offer to ICANN — julie, October 23 @ 7:36 AM (1/2)
- "General Comments" thread by clicking here — ALLDNS, October 22 @ 11:45 PM (0/0)
- MODERATOR-PLEASE MANAGE THE BULLETIN BOARD MORE EFFECTIVELY. PUT MOST ACTIVE SECTIONS AT TOP!!! — Facilitator, October 22 @ 7:41 PM (1/3)
- A note about wiredz... — marshm, October 22 @ 4:19 PM (2/2)
- The Public HATES Network Solutions — Merlin, October 22 @ 4:49 AM (1/3)
- New Afilias Site — global view, October 21 @ 11:34 PM (6/12)
- trademarks and preregistration - through IOD or others — ted, October 21 @ 8:58 PM (0/0)
- Remember Citizens Band Radio - CB Radio — ALLDNS, October 21 @ 6:34 PM (2/5)
- IOD is not fit to operate Registry — SayNoToIOD, October 21 @ 5:40 PM (7/7)
- Drop .web !!! Be creative !!! — Say_No_To_Afilias, October 21 @ 5:09 PM (0/0)
- IOD Registrations wiped out - they were only for showing support. — Al Gore, October 21 @ 1:33 PM (3/9)
- What TLD's Should I be looking to register? — gonzo1977, October 21 @ 9:37 AM (1/1)
- INFORMATION REGARDING THE FOCI PETITION — TheScribe, October 21 @ 8:18 AM (8/9)
- US Centric TLD - again! — gpine, October 21 @ 8:14 AM (3/8)
- ICANN & IOD — Merlin, October 21 @ 7:00 AM (2/7)
- Just say NO to self proclaimed Registries — SayNoToIOD, October 21 @ 5:47 AM (8/13)
- Sherman & Clayton Antitrust Acts & Afilias — Merlin, October 21 @ 3:53 AM (1/1)
- About TLDs intended for Childrens applications (as .KIDS): Comments and Recommendations on Proposals — vany_martinez, October 21 @ 1:21 AM (1/1)
- My e-mail to Senator Boxer - for public review. — friedrich, October 21 @ 12:31 AM (1/4)
- Let's Talk About NeuStar — Eliahu, October 20 @ 10:07 PM (2/11)
- Draft-Any Comments? Also, Need Catchy Title For Subject. — Facilitator, October 20 @ 10:03 PM (4/15)
- JVTeam not only try to take .web from IOD they avoided paying ICANN its $50,000 — Anthony, October 20 @ 10:03 PM (1/2)
- Wanted: Ballot Indicating All Names Of Those Opposed To Afilias & Neustar — Facilitator, October 20 @ 9:57 PM (2/3)
- What Date and Time Does This Board Close? — Infinity, October 20 @ 9:51 PM (2/3)
- Wanted: Letter That Sums Events To Send To Congress & Agencies — Facilitator, October 20 @ 9:50 PM (2/10)
- Neustar/MelbourneIT and .Web — Merlin, October 20 @ 9:50 PM (0/0)
- Some Names Council History — jtrade, October 20 @ 9:25 PM (0/0)
- Impeach Stubbs — Smart, October 20 @ 9:11 PM (0/0)
- senator@boxer.senate.gov = Barbara Boxer's E-Mail Address — pilot, October 20 @ 8:59 PM (0/0)
- Vote 'No Confidence' in Ken Stubbs - please resign due to conflict of interest — JaseK, October 20 @ 8:39 PM (0/0)
- Who are Local Congress People? — Smart, October 20 @ 7:57 PM (2/3)
- Complain to California Attorney General — Smart, October 20 @ 7:39 PM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs is Laughing at YOU>>>>>> — whatsupdoc, October 20 @ 7:06 PM (2/5)
- Congress — Smart, October 20 @ 6:23 PM (1/3)
- .WEB Registry — Ryan4, October 20 @ 6:15 PM (1/1)
- Why Didn't Afilias Include .Shop And Others On Their Application? — Eliahu, October 20 @ 5:44 PM (0/0)
- Domain Names With Built-In Brand Equity Will Be Taken Out Of Use Under Afilias Plan! — Facilitator, October 20 @ 4:55 PM (0/0)
- New Argument For Opposing Afilias Plan!!! — Facilitator, October 20 @ 4:44 PM (0/0)
- Useless — julie, October 20 @ 4:13 PM (0/0)
- Lack Of Afilias Representation In This Forum — pilot, October 20 @ 4:05 PM (2/2)
- wrong-headed methodology — sourceview, October 20 @ 4:01 PM (0/0)
- dispute between CNN and cnnews.com — marry2000, October 20 @ 2:57 PM (0/0)
- ICANN - Opportunity to require enforcement of policy — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 12:56 AM (0/0)
- AFILIAS - Is it unethical . . . ? — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 11:57 AM (1/1)
- CORE apparently unwilling to properly manage US CORE Members — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 10:54 AM (1/18)
- Complaints Regarding CASDNS Business Practices Requested — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 9:00 AM (0/0)
- Complaints Regarding CORE & ASS Business Practices Requested — ALLDNS, October 20 @ 8:48 AM (0/0)
- Afilias:Competition and Ken Stubbs — Merlin, October 20 @ 8:26 AM (1/7)
- Affilias vs. Afilias — enforcer, October 20 @ 8:23 AM (3/3)
- Top level Domain names - — ravicabral, October 20 @ 8:08 AM (1/1)
- Precedent:::: InterNic Permitted **PRE** registrations in 1993 — ian-francis-xavier, October 20 @ 6:23 AM (0/0)
- General Observations of the Past Few Days — Facilitator, October 20 @ 5:50 AM (0/0)
- September Names Council Meeting! — jtrade, October 20 @ 4:53 AM (0/0)
- How Generic are these proposals - internationalisation? — internat?, October 20 @ 4:10 AM (0/0)
- Ethics, competition, pioneer rights — Hather, October 20 @ 3:45 AM (1/1)
- Network Solutions and Bad Security — jtrade, October 20 @ 1:38 AM (0/0)
- Names Council Meeting — jtrade, October 20 @ 1:10 AM (2/4)
- more trademark problems in surprising places — Judith Oppenheimer, October 20 @ 12:53 AM (0/0)
- ICANN scammed out of $950,000 I agree — Merlin, October 20 @ 12:28 AM (0/0)
- Think Afilias is bad, check out a future Communist Government owned registry — emc2, October 19 @ 10:28 PM (2/3)
- THE TRUTH: Some trademarks will become invalid. — friedrich, October 19 @ 9:33 PM (0/0)
- More Conflict of Interest? — jtrade, October 19 @ 8:32 PM (1/1)
- Afilias/NSI - a Cybersquatter in bad faith? — Rebeka, October 19 @ 7:22 PM (3/3)
- .traveln — traveln, October 19 @ 7:08 PM (2/3)
- Pre-registrations were allowed in 1993 for .com — fabrcop, October 19 @ 4:28 PM (3/6)
- Unhappy Customers — Merlin, October 19 @ 8:38 AM (0/0)
- Don't be suckered in by those Afilias supporters. What they say is absurd. Instead, support IOD... — USC, October 19 @ 8:37 AM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs,to close for comfort! — Merlin, October 19 @ 8:30 AM (0/0)
- Don't be too hasty - use established registrars — vicspanner, October 19 @ 7:42 AM (1/5)
- GO TO WWW.JOINFOCI.ORG........ SUPPORT IMAGE ONLINE DESIGN'S .WEB.......AFILIAS SHMAFILIAS!!!!!!! — USC, October 19 @ 7:14 AM (0/0)
- The UDRP will make all discussion concerning initial domain registration useless... — zzmars, October 19 @ 6:21 AM (0/0)
- Link to Slide Presentations on NSI's Future Plans — RDM, October 19 @ 6:12 AM (1/1)
- IOD Exposed #6 (sex.web) — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 5:14 AM (10/13)
- I was impressed because IOD did NOT reserve several domains — fabrcop, October 19 @ 4:32 PM (0/0)
- Sir, there is no fire here. — For The People, October 19 @ 10:11 AM (1/2)
- cybersquating & speculating is NOT the issue //it's control of INFO by AOL — ian-francis-xavier, October 19 @ 7:05 AM (0/0)
- Thanks "Whistle Blower" You managed to get us off topic...which i suspect you wanted... — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 19 @ 6:03 AM (0/0)
- Conflict of Interest Defined — jtrade, October 19 @ 6:02 AM (0/0)
- Conspiracy? Try Blatant abuse — jranes2, October 19 @ 5:55 AM (0/0)
- You Are Unjustly Comparing "Conflict Of Interest" With "Insider Trading" — Eliahu, October 19 @ 5:52 AM (0/0)
- Thanks for the compliment! You closet posters only help IOD's postion... — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 19 @ 5:41 AM (0/0)
- Scared — jtrade, October 19 @ 5:35 AM (0/0)
- Yup... — cambler, October 19 @ 5:18 AM (1/1)
- IOD Exposed #5 (the witnesses speak) — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 4:48 AM (2/3)
- IOD Exposed #4 (what the court had to say) — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 4:37 AM (2/2)
- IOD Exposed #3 — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 4:09 AM (2/2)
- IOD Exposed #2 — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 4:03 AM (3/4)
- IOD Exposed #1 — Whistleblower, October 19 @ 3:44 AM (5/5)
- Only Chartered TLDs — dmhwalker, October 19 @ 3:03 AM (1/1)
- Network Solutions and Restraint of Trade — jtrade, October 19 @ 12:43 AM (0/0)
- NSI Experienced High Level of Uncollectible Receivables - Latest 10-K — RDM, October 19 @ 12:36 AM (1/4)
- ICANN'T TOLERATE CORRUPTION — jranes2, October 19 @ 12:35 AM (0/0)
- Why doesn't everyone support IOD? — Doc again, October 18 @ 11:41 PM (0/0)
- Interesting Article — RDM, October 18 @ 11:35 PM (2/3)
- Did Ken Stubbs Have Access To IOD's Application Before Afillias Submitted? — Mr. Lawrence1, October 18 @ 11:32 PM (3/13)
- I want a .LOVE not a .WAR ! — OrlandoMM, October 18 @ 10:43 PM (0/0)
- .kids domain — prshaw, October 18 @ 10:15 PM (0/0)
- How does ICANN Vote? — Merlin , October 18 @ 9:47 PM (3/3)
- My Internet, your Internet, our Internet! — friedrich, October 18 @ 9:07 PM (0/0)
- ICANN Will Pick Afilias? — Eliahu, October 18 @ 8:53 PM (3/3)
- Oversight — RDM, October 18 @ 8:17 PM (1/2)
- ICANN is the cause of the indignation, NOT IOD supporters — vdfman, October 18 @ 7:56 PM (0/0)
- For ICANN to award .web to Afilias would be a massive anti-trust issue. — Hudgens, October 18 @ 7:43 PM (1/1)
- Just got "bulk-mailed" by NSI — PHXbird, October 18 @ 7:18 PM (0/0)
- After thorough research of applications, I agree with IOD... — zzmars, October 18 @ 6:50 PM (0/0)
- IOD supporters make the news! — ludacris, October 18 @ 5:59 PM (0/0)
- ¼¼°è °¢±¹ ¾ð¾î·Î Æ÷·³ÀÌ °³¼³µÇ¾î¾ß Çϸç, ¼¼°è ¸ðµç »ç¶÷ÀÇ Àǻ簡 ÀÚÀ¯·Ó°Ô Ç¥½ÃµÇ¾î¾ß ÇÑ´Ù. — JP Kim, October 18 @ 5:50 PM (0/0)
- Proposition to ICANN, Applicants & Internet Community — Pistoff, October 18 @ 5:33 PM (0/0)
- Network Solutions Scandal — Merlin, October 18 @ 4:46 PM (0/0)
- Real People Don't Care — philberent, October 18 @ 4:05 PM (5/9)
- Timing of Decision Making Process — Pistoff, October 18 @ 3:46 PM (1/1)
- name-space knows how to do it — asw, October 18 @ 12:32 AM (1/1)
- The importance of Meaning and Generality — Filip, October 18 @ 12:24 AM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs has links to 15 TLDs!! — doc again, October 18 @ 11:53 AM (1/1)
- IOD = excellent customer service — treherne, October 18 @ 9:30 AM (1/1)
- Neustar and Afilias Bid to Steal .Web — jtrade, October 18 @ 1:47 AM (2/2)
- David vs Goliath — CBK, October 18 @ 1:28 AM (0/0)
- Dot..tv registration is highly questionable. — zeo, October 17 @ 11:13 PM (2/2)
- No monopolies please — RKnight, October 17 @ 9:59 PM (1/6)
- Why all the focus on ONE TLD? — lapointe, October 17 @ 8:37 PM (1/15)
- Neustar Attempting to BRIBE ICANN? — jtrade, October 17 @ 8:12 PM (0/0)
- Throwing out the .kid with the .xxx bathwater. — markusbaccus, October 17 @ 8:09 PM (1/3)
- World Thoughts, A Must Read — jtrade, October 17 @ 7:42 PM (4/34)
- Ken Stubbs & Conflict Of Interest Policy — RDM, October 17 @ 6:16 PM (0/0)
- Interesting Article — RDM, October 17 @ 5:46 PM (1/4)
- Want to see another monopoly? — ForgetTheHype, October 17 @ 5:41 PM (5/48)
- Any Connection With Afilias? (i.e. Affiliate Program) — Mario, October 17 @ 5:37 PM (0/0)
- IOD Court Ruling - FACTS — ForgetTheHype, October 17 @ 5:26 PM (1/1)
- IOD deserves .WEB, stop the monopoly — IraChandler, October 17 @ 4:46 PM (1/1)
- Support for Image Online Design — URLMerchant, October 17 @ 4:12 PM (1/2)
- Pre-Registration, even in .WEB, is premature — zzmars, October 17 @ 4:06 PM (3/3)
- This process is extremely complicated especially if you don't speak English!! — Neila, October 17 @ 3:27 PM (1/1)
- We Need Help! — ChrisT, October 17 @ 2:50 PM (0/0)
- IOD should be the owner of .WEB Addresses — Rhoades, October 17 @ 2:45 PM (0/0)
- Summary — fabrcop, October 17 @ 1:34 PM (0/0)
- IO Design is clearly the owner of .web — chichit, October 17 @ 1:31 PM (1/1)
- It's all been said — vinny, October 17 @ 12:48 AM (1/1)
- ICANN, WHY WON'T YOU COMMENT ON THE KEN STUBBS ISSUE? — anthony, October 17 @ 11:32 AM (1/1)
- IOD .WEB — Michael Fox, October 17 @ 9:22 AM (1/1)
- Ethical Suicide — Merlin, October 17 @ 9:16 AM (1/1)
- no .WEB at all — Makla, October 17 @ 8:52 AM (2/3)
- The Tangled .WEB They Weave.... — jtrade, October 17 @ 7:28 AM (1/1)
- Register .WEB — Andy, October 17 @ 7:17 AM (1/1)
- About any proposed gTLD with strings and acronyms that implies geographical regions and .GEO — vany_martinez, October 17 @ 7:06 AM (0/0)
- Monopolies MUST be stopped — C.Bell, October 17 @ 7:02 AM (1/1)
- My history with NSI.. ** Please write YOURS ****** — rantawi, October 17 @ 6:51 AM (0/0)
- About .KIDS, .WOMEN, .XXX and .SEX — vany_martinez, October 17 @ 6:37 AM (1/2)
- Neustar Attempting to BRIBE ICANN for .WEB? — jtrade, October 17 @ 6:29 AM (0/0)
- Posting of Applications & Legal bills (applicant for .web # 3) — BELLC, October 17 @ 6:27 AM (0/0)
- Messages Commenting on gTLDs were Censored — keith246, October 17 @ 4:29 AM (0/0)
- Most People not know what mean .pro .nom .biz .dir ... — JP Kim, October 17 @ 4:21 AM (0/0)
- Parody gTLDs must be restricted to be permitted by the courts — keith246, October 17 @ 4:07 AM (0/0)
- Concrete Name is more good for ASIA and Africa, East Europe, Latin America people. — JP Kim, October 17 @ 3:58 AM (1/1)
- The issue isn't which 3 letters follow the last dot — keith246, October 17 @ 3:54 AM (0/0)
- Unrestricted gTLDs will waste the resource and solve nothing — keith246, October 17 @ 3:42 AM (1/8)
- WEB TLD's — swallace, October 17 @ 3:37 AM (2/3)
- BE FAIR — billlevy, October 17 @ 2:17 AM (0/0)
- Explanation please... — huguesdb, October 17 @ 12:55 AM (2/6)
- IOD .Web supporters and those for Competition — jtrade, October 17 @ 12:19 AM (2/2)
- .WEB TLD — vd, October 17 @ 12:15 AM (3/3)
- web registry — tennis, October 16 @ 9:51 PM (0/0)
- Support for Image Online Design and the .web TLD — Hudgens, October 16 @ 9:47 PM (4/6)
- We all want .web, can Afilias and IOD run it together? — Stoertebeker, October 16 @ 8:06 PM (1/1)
- Afilias.tv — Merlin, October 16 @ 7:09 PM (0/0)
- Jon Postel's words — Reidar, October 16 @ 6:24 PM (2/2)
- Ken Stubbs - VP & Director of iDomain, Inc. (Another Applicant) — RDM, October 16 @ 6:18 PM (0/0)
- Ken Stubbs/Sunrise Period — Merlin, October 16 @ 6:11 PM (0/0)
- TLD applications .kids — algajola24, October 16 @ 5:44 PM (0/0)
- Read the applications: IODesign is the best choice for .web — fabrcop, October 16 @ 5:36 PM (0/0)
- Vote to extend discussion forum — emc2, October 16 @ 5:17 PM (1/1)
- Now you can pre-register for the 7 new TLD's .firm, .shop, .arts, .rec, .info, .nom and .web free! — Rebeka, October 16 @ 4:56 PM (2/8)
- Password Revoked Second Time — TheWebster2, October 16 @ 4:10 PM (5/10)
- There are other applications to consider — lapointe, October 16 @ 3:19 PM (0/0)
- No advantage for IOD for their bad business pratice — KMalorny, October 16 @ 2:52 PM (2/5)
- Questions for C.Ambler (IOD) — IODskeptic, October 16 @ 10:19 AM (1/5)
- Ken Stubbs - how many apps are you involved with? — jandl, October 16 @ 8:46 AM (1/1)
- ICANN: I am waiting for answers from the respective APPLICANTS in this FORUM! — friedrich, October 16 @ 8:12 AM (3/4)
- Cookie Web-bugs use explodes with additional generic TLDs — davebr, October 16 @ 8:12 AM (0/0)
- Moderator, where are you? — pedro, October 16 @ 5:46 AM (3/3)
- Reply to Hold on a second... — marshm, — emc2, October 16 @ 5:08 AM (0/0)
- Delay Selection of New GTLDs Until New Board Members Added — enforcer, October 16 @ 4:20 AM (1/1)
- Name-Space — fred, October 16 @ 3:54 AM (1/2)
- Are we missing the point here? — marshm, October 16 @ 3:35 AM (3/3)
- How can Stubbs be removed from ICANN? — mmtb1111, October 16 @ 2:42 AM (1/1)
- Want accept all TLDs, .art .trade .market .music ... — kim, October 16 @ 1:50 AM (3/5)
- Just LOOK at this place! (3 main issues) — anthony, October 16 @ 1:32 AM (0/0)
- How can we comment on un-posted TLD applications ?? & trademarks issue — emc2, October 16 @ 12:05 AM (2/3)
- Is .web not an 'alternate root system'? — huguesdb, October 16 @ 12:03 AM (2/6)
- Honoring Existing Contracts — Mr. Lawrence, October 15 @ 11:45 PM (0/0)
- We are so caught up, we are forgetting one thing. — For The People, October 15 @ 11:38 PM (1/2)
- Go IOD ! — treherne, October 15 @ 11:19 PM (0/0)
- Password Revoked — TheWebster, October 15 @ 10:28 PM (1/1)
- Project Trojan Horse — TheWebster1, October 15 @ 10:24 PM (1/1)
- _ Ken Stubbs Should Step Down From ICANN or Afilias. — internet78, October 15 @ 8:21 PM (0/0)
- If Afilias has so much power, why do they not flood this message board with supporters? — Stoertebeker, October 15 @ 8:20 PM (2/6)
- If ICANN decides that Name.Space has the best application - do they get ALL their new TLD names? — Rebeka, October 15 @ 7:34 PM (2/6)
- An Open Letter to IOD Supporters — cambler, October 15 @ 7:31 PM (4/7)
- A 60 day sunrise period! — first1, October 15 @ 7:09 PM (0/0)
- Time frame for new TLDs — kularski, October 15 @ 6:29 PM (0/0)
- Network Solutions SPOOKY Past — Merlin, October 15 @ 6:26 PM (1/1)
- I am horrified by a sunrise period for the Afilias Cartel!!! — Rebeka, October 15 @ 5:52 PM (3/13)
- Afilias limits regestration to 10 years max!! — Anthony, October 15 @ 5:35 PM (1/1)
- TO ALL POSTERS: - Please list your name and Where you are from...ALSO more on our Grassroot Efforts — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 15 @ 5:31 PM (0/0)
- Afilias - 100% conflict of interest — pedro, October 15 @ 5:22 PM (0/0)
- Has the creation of AFILIAS been approved by respective authorities having supervision of cartels? — friedrich, October 15 @ 5:02 PM (1/1)
- A matter of Public Trust — mhubbard, October 15 @ 4:51 PM (0/0)
- IOD meets the criteria for stability, Affilias does not. — doc, October 15 @ 2:23 PM (1/28)
- The Comment Process to-date - An analysis — TRUTH BE TOLD, October 15 @ 11:42 AM (2/2)
- same opinions — PSH, October 15 @ 9:33 AM (1/4)
- Ken Stubs - Insider — TheWebster, October 15 @ 9:29 AM (0/0)
- ICANN - how do you grant equal chances for all, to register new TLD's on day 1? — Rebeka, October 15 @ 8:59 AM (3/17)
- It's the same feeling. — LGW, October 15 @ 8:54 AM (2/7)
- Can of worms — pedro, October 15 @ 8:29 AM (1/2)
- I am confident in ICANN's fairness — fabrcop, October 15 @ 7:21 AM (2/11)
- Register.com (=Afilias) is unable to handle new TLD's — Rebeka, October 15 @ 6:32 AM (2/2)
- PROTEST — pedro, October 15 @ 5:44 AM (2/9)
- Impropriety Not Likely — jranes, October 15 @ 2:57 AM (2/2)
- TO THE MODERATOR: Can discussions be broken out by TLDs? — Robert_Jacobson, October 15 @ 2:49 AM (1/1)
- DO NOT ADD .XXX or .SEX CHOOSE MORE WISELY — Frank S., October 15 @ 2:34 AM (1/1)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -ATTENTION: ICANN — icann_, October 15 @ 2:20 AM (1/3)
- Ken Stubbs - CPA — TheWebster, October 15 @ 1:37 AM (0/0)
- KEN STUBBS - SHAME ON YOU — Frank S., October 15 @ 1:22 AM (0/0)
- Praise to IOD — q, October 15 @ 1:13 AM (0/0)
- Keep NSI OUT! — kodo, October 15 @ 1:10 AM (0/0)
- A Recommendation to Posters, A Call to ICANN — For The People, October 15 @ 1:01 AM (0/0)
- SPECULATION — friedrich, October 15 @ 12:19 AM (1/2)
- a comment on the .web tld — economist, October 14 @ 11:57 PM (1/1)
- This board is an embarassment — BrianC, October 14 @ 11:51 PM (5/11)
- Quotes from the Afilias fact sheet. — hoffy, October 14 @ 10:58 PM (1/1)
- TO ICANN: — Merlin, October 14 @ 10:48 PM (1/1)
- ICANN in an Attempt to Censor our Posts? — Merlin, October 14 @ 10:31 PM (1/1)
- SMOKE & MIRRORS — TRUTH BE TOLD, October 14 @ 9:23 PM (3/3)
- Ken Stubbs - Caught in the act? — joshwa, October 14 @ 9:13 PM (0/0)
- I support Afilias and registered Afilias.web today! — Stoertebeker, October 14 @ 9:05 PM (2/2)
- NSI and Register.com in Bed Together — Merlin, October 14 @ 9:03 PM (1/1)
- Message from Saudi Arabia - TRUTH about NSI and IOD — rantawi, October 14 @ 8:14 PM (0/0)
- .Web — phelix00, October 14 @ 8:08 PM (1/1)
- KEN STUBBS - WHO IS HE ? (I THINK WE ALL KNOW) — lew, October 14 @ 7:21 PM (0/0)
- TO THE ICANN BOARD MEMBERS: Dot Web/IOD /Supporters are getting ORGANIZED..Building a Website! — Gregory W. Krajewski, October 14 @ 6:52 PM (6/9)
- How can one comment when the apps are not posted? — jandl, October 14 @ 6:28 PM (1/2)
- Http://www.Afilias.tv — Merlin, October 14 @ 6:12 PM (0/0)
- Fragmenting the net — jandl, October 14 @ 5:57 PM (0/0)
- NO IMAGE ONLINE AS A .WEB contract — jtuttle, October 14 @ 5:48 PM (6/8)
- URGENT: Please watch this video of Ken Stubbs proving his abusive self-interest — Infinity, October 14 @ 5:43 PM (2/4)
- .SEX, .XXX, .KIDS TLDs Restrict Freedom of Speech — ron10000, October 14 @ 5:10 PM (8/8)
- Opportunity for WWW to set a global standard — iceberg, October 31 @ 3:32 PM (0/0)
- IT'S ABOUT OUR KIDS ! ! ! — AdvantaTel, October 18 @ 12:41 AM (0/0)
- Quit hair-splitting. That's not what these domains are for. — lrfarny, October 17 @ 3:32 AM (0/0)
- Red-Light & Green Space TLD (fact v. fiction) — mpalage, October 17 @ 2:32 AM (0/0)
- .XXX, .SEX, ect — kularski, October 14 @ 10:21 PM (0/0)
- .sex and .xxx domains — sairanx, October 14 @ 10:00 PM (0/0)
- "Restrictive" TLDs — PHXbird, October 14 @ 8:53 PM (0/0)
- What??!! — americeo, October 14 @ 5:27 PM (0/0)
- IMAGE ONLINE IS DESERVING OF .WEB contract — chicagoan, October 14 @ 5:07 PM (2/5)
- IOD the .web pioneer — first1, October 14 @ 5:06 PM (2/6)
- Application by Image Online Design — sduncan, October 14 @ 5:04 PM (3/7)
- Permission granted! Permission NEVER revoked! — larreeee, October 14 @ 5:01 PM (1/4)
- Why is this even happening... — bags, October 14 @ 4:56 PM (2/2)
- Separation of Registry and Registrar Functions — RobS, October 14 @ 4:56 PM (1/1)
- IOD has acted in Good Faith — Robert Garner, October 14 @ 4:17 PM (1/1)
- Another Monopol ? — Killah, October 14 @ 3:55 PM (0/0)
- ICANN SCAMMED OUT OF ( $950,000 ) BY AFILIAS CARTEL! — AdvantaTel, October 14 @ 3:53 PM (2/12)
- Vote for .Web / Vote for IOD — anthony, October 14 @ 3:25 PM (2/3)
- .WEB — MDS, October 14 @ 2:33 PM (2/7)
- Have you ever dealt with NSI? — mpayette, October 14 @ 2:23 PM (0/0)
- A general question to ICANN — cgrady, October 14 @ 7:43 AM (2/6)
- Ken Stubbs & Conflicts of Interest Policy — RDM, October 14 @ 5:10 AM (2/3)
- EOI #22...I'm throwing my support to the IOD's .web registry — USC, October 14 @ 4:57 AM (0/0)
- Keep NSI out — cbk, October 14 @ 3:52 AM (0/0)
- .SEX, .XXX, .KIDS TLDs Restrict Freedom of Speech — ron10000, October 14 @ 3:31 AM (0/0)
- NSI monopoly! — first1, October 14 @ 1:48 AM (3/4)
- Keep NSI Out — Attorney, October 14 @ 1:37 AM (1/2)
- Keep NSI out — pedro, October 14 @ 12:49 AM (0/0)
- After having read most of the applications: .WEB and IOD are the obvious choices — saskia, October 13 @ 11:11 PM (3/3)
- Why applicants for a TLD should pay 50 000 $ — lpele, October 13 @ 10:28 PM (2/3)
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